1 hour ago1 hr 15 minutes ago, almagest said:Also the usual suspects here hate the move and that automatically makes it better.Yeah, the more hyperbolic our glum chums rant, that makes me look for more positives, and then I find them. I've already reasoned Pereira out of my mind over that 8th inning single he let bounce past him on Saturday, and if Castillo can right the ship, I think he's a dude.
1 hour ago1 hr 13 minutes ago, GreenSox said:So we traded for what we had and then virtually gave away in Hill. We’ve done several of these zigzag sort of things over the last couple of years.Because we're a rebuilding club running prospects through the queue. Hill wasn't a long-term piece. And if they found a taker, they had to move him to give Pereira a shot to see what they had. Same with Acuña, Kelenic, Peters, Murray, Notch and Nishida.
1 hour ago1 hr 3 minutes ago, WestEddy said:Yeah, the more hyperbolic our glum chums rant, that makes me look for more positives, and then I find them. I've already reasoned Pereira out of my mind over that 8th inning single he let bounce past him on Saturday, and if Castillo can right the ship, I think he's a dude.Most of the grades in this thread are fairly comparable. I’m not seeing any hyperbolic “glum chums” ranting. You even graded it a C.Hyperbolic would be reasoning a player that you formerly liked out of your mind over one single defensive miscue. Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023
1 hour ago1 hr 14 minutes ago, almagest said:I just don't think Pereira is much of anything because he can't stay on the field. We'll see if Doyle is any better.I’m just not seeing where Doyle is much of anything either. He’s 3 years older than Pereira and has had a lot more time to prove himself in the majors. He has almost 1,450 more major league plate appearances than Pereira and here’s his career line. Yikes….233.284.385.670
59 minutes ago59 min B-/C+I don’t understand the Pereira move. He’s shaky in the field, but he seemed to have some RH pop. Seems like the kind of guy you’d want to keep around. If they feel Doyle is going to regain his form from a few years ago, I suppose it’s worth a shot.I like the Bart pickup, but I still feel like Lee should have been called up at some point.I’d rather see Shultz move to the pen. He can’t seem to make it through a second time around the order, so pitching in relief might accelerate his game. Fedde and Kay both give a solid 5 innings and keep the game close.Bullpen move is an upgrade.Most importantly, they didn’t give away anything that should affect their future. Edited 57 minutes ago57 min by Middle Buffalo
53 minutes ago53 min 40 minutes ago, Falstaff said:Adams coming off TJ is a factor that comes into play.He gained some velocity since TJS. Huge plus IMO.
51 minutes ago51 min 12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:Most of the grades in this thread are fairly comparable. I’m not seeing any hyperbolic “glum chums” ranting. You even graded it a C.Hyperbolic would be reasoning a player that you formerly liked out of your mind over one single defensive miscue.Yeah, nobody is ranting here. I think some of the individual reactions in the general trade string are extreme (worst trade ever, etc.), and those just make me consider them, more. I'm not criticizing anyone for their viewpoints. I don't think that single play changed the org's minds on Pereira, but if they were leaning, I don't think it helped.
49 minutes ago49 min 7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:I’m just not seeing where Doyle is much of anything either. He’s 3 years older than Pereira and has had a lot more time to prove himself in the majors. He has almost 1,450 more major league plate appearances than Pereira and here’s his career line. Yikes….233.284.385.670I've posted some reasons why elsewhere. He's had personal issues (lost a child due to miscarriage) and some injuries since his breakout 2024. The injuries are hopefully behind him, and he's been showing some positive offensive signs since returning from injury this year. He's a good defender which helps prop his value up. Sox seem to like taking multiple shots on multiple players to see who sticks and who their organizational philosophy can help. I don't have a problem with that.
48 minutes ago48 min 24 minutes ago, Falstaff said:Hill was a great waiver pick up but once Braden came up and took over right field, he was the odd man out. Peters took off and was playing great which was totally unexpected.Yea but we had Perez out there too. Could have kept Hill in lieu of him. Anyway, if Doyle can re-channel 2024, we're set.
40 minutes ago40 min 11 minutes ago, WestEddy said:Yeah, nobody is ranting here. I think some of the individual reactions in the general trade string are extreme (worst trade ever, etc.), and those just make me consider them, more. I'm not criticizing anyone for their viewpoints. I don't think that single play changed the org's minds on Pereira, but if they were leaning, I don't think it helped.I do agree that we were all expecting Pereira to be able to play CF when he was first acquired, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
23 minutes ago23 min Author 24 minutes ago, GreenSox said:Yea but we had Perez out there too. Could have kept Hill in lieu of him. Anyway, if Doyle can re-channel 2024, we're set.Perez came up when Hays & Pereira got hurt
14 minutes ago14 min The most annoying part of this trade deadline is that this is probably half of our next offseason already.A starter, a reliever, a center fielder, and a backup catcher.I’m not seeing much spending happening next offseason, with or without a lockout.
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