https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2026/08/25/white-sox-trade-deadline-acquisitions-huascar-brazoban-injured-list-brenton-doyle-luis-castillo-jose-urquidy-joey-bart-jake-rogers-andrew-benintendi-chris-getz-walker-mckinven

20 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2026/08/25/white-sox-trade-deadline-acquisitions-huascar-brazoban-injured-list-brenton-doyle-luis-castillo-jose-urquidy-joey-bart-jake-rogers-andrew-benintendi-chris-getz-walker-mckinven

Very little actually said here. Summary for anyone that cares:

1.) They believe in all of the guys they brought on and have plans for all of them which they are hoping lead them all to being productive.

2.) Proclaims “changes during the season are hard, even small ones.”

And that’s about all. Some specifics about bringing Castillo’s change back, hope for Doyle to return to his 20 home run potential, and Brazoban’s arm angle having been different prior to his injury that they seem to equate to his poor performance since coming over.

“These guys could give us meaningful production in October which would be great”

“It’s hard to judge impact in just three week”

Stuff like that.

Changes are hard mid season which is why it’s strange that Getz went out and acquired two projects out of four total additions.

21 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Changes are hard mid season which is why it’s strange that Getz went out and acquired two projects out of four total additions.

His moves were telling. To me they spoke of arrogance. He’s really firm in the belief in the departments he’s built and he’s really firm in his belief of our kids on the farm.

I think that arrogance was shortsighted where there should have been a more balanced approach. There should have been more of a willingness to sacrifice some of the future for the present.

Oh well… if it doesn’t pan out and he owns this, I’ll forgive it. If it pans out then he was right and he’ll earn some respect.

Big gamble in my book. But then again, this team has responded every single time they are challenged or questioned… so maybe he has cause to feel such confidence.

Another example we all likely forgot about was that Woods kid that we got in the Gonzo deal with Pittsburgh. Dude got lit up like a Christmas tree in his first Charlotte outing but has since gone something like 11 games 1.43 ERA and double digit strikeouts.

That may be another example of taking on a project and his coaching staff bringing results.

Edited 10 hours ago10 hr by hi8is

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Changes are hard mid season which is why it’s strange that Getz went out and acquired two projects out of four total additions.

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Cubs traded away their no 2 prospect Jefferson Rojas at the trade deadline and received Clay Holmes.

Getz may have competed for Holmes by trading Billy Carlson or even Bonemer. That may have made the difference between winning the Division or not.

Guardians traded for OF Jo Adell from the LA Angels for catching prospect Jacob Cozart who became the No. 16 prospct in the Angels system.

Getz had a few catcher prospects to make that deal. Instead Getz went for Doyle.

I suppose this, like almost everything else that goes wrong, can be blamed on JR and the lack of the financial support promised from Ishbia. Or , more simply, the lack of urgency to win the Division this season leaving this very good team just short of the Guardians.

Doyle might be a project, but he is also a plug and play elite CF. I think the need for a true CF incase Peters gets injured was the motivation for the trade.

Doyle also can be of value for years as a OF glove on the bench with spots starts.

Edited 7 hours ago7 hr by Falstaff

24 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

Doyle might be a project, but he is also a plug and play elite CF. I think the need for a true CF incase Peters gets injured was the motivation for the trade.

Doyle also can be of value for years as a OF glove on the bench with spots starts.

The Rockies were looking to dump him and he probably would have been a giveaway player or non-tender in the offseason. Not a guy you give up what Getz gave up for him.

1 hour ago, tray said:

Cubs traded away their no 2 prospect Jefferson Rojas at the trade deadline and received Clay Holmes.

Getz may have competed for Holmes by trading Billy Carlson or even Bonemer. That may have made the difference between winning the Division or not.

Guardians traded for OF Jo Adell from the LA Angels for catching prospect Jacob Cozart who became the No. 16 prospct in the Angels system.

Getz had a few catcher prospects to make that deal. Instead Getz went for Doyle.

I suppose this, like almost everything else that goes wrong, can be blamed on JR and the lack of the financial support promised from Ishbia. Or , more simply, the lack of urgency to win the Division this season leaving this very good team just short of the Guardians.

Jo Adell's on a hot streak since getting to Cleveland. He put up a 93 OPS+ in Anaheim, which is below average. He's not a CF. The team wanted to replace Pereira, who was always injured, and is not a CF. There would have been no point in acquiring Jo Adell.

4 hours ago, hi8is said:

His moves were telling. To me they spoke of arrogance. He’s really firm in the belief in the departments he’s built and he’s really firm in his belief of our kids on the farm.

I think that arrogance was shortsighted where there should have been a more balanced approach. There should have been more of a willingness to sacrifice some of the future for the present.

Oh well… if it doesn’t pan out and he owns this, I’ll forgive it. If it pans out then he was right and he’ll earn some respect.

Big gamble in my book. But then again, this team has responded every single time they are challenged or questioned… so maybe he has cause to feel such confidence.

Another example we all likely forgot about was that Woods kid that we got in the Gonzo deal with Pittsburgh. Dude got lit up like a Christmas tree in his first Charlotte outing but has since gone something like 11 games 1.43 ERA and double digit strikeouts.

That may be another example of taking on a project and his coaching staff bringing results.

I completely agree with you. I think Getz got high on his own supply. He really thought he could "fix" these guys midseason? As if it is that easy to drastically improve players.

We like to think we are a fly on the wall with these negotiations. We haven't the slightest clue what went on.

We want to believe the myth the farm system is on the level of other organizations.

It's a big difference trading for a World Series which maybe having at least 2 Skubals might do it.

There's a reality ignored that much of this Sox lineup came from other farm systems.

I have to agree with the arrogance part. Unfortunately it's hard for a GM to avoid that midseason trade deadline just to make a trade.

We should start a I Take My Apology Back to Getz thread.

I still don't understand that trade with the Pirates.

1 hour ago, kitekrazy said:

It's a big difference trading for a World Series which maybe having at least 2 Skubals might do it.

This is an important point. Given how bad this staff is, how many arms would we have needed to acquire at the deadline to become serious World Series contenders? 2-3 high quality 2/3 starters, a couple bullpen arms capable of consistently surviving high leverage outings, and a catcher who can hit the ball but also play decent defense? I mean, you can't keep Acuna on a WS contender so we'd have to find a replacement for him, I'd imagine.

Do y'all realize we could have emptied out our top 10 prospects and probably still not have a true contending roster? Why the hell would we sacrifice 3-4 top prospects who likely end up in MLB just to win the Central this year? Y'all would be calling for Getz's head come October when the Sox don't even make it out of the ALDS...."HE SACRIFICED OUR FUTURE FOR THIS????"

2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

The Rockies were looking to dump him and he probably would have been a giveaway player or non-tender in the offseason. Not a guy you give up what Getz gave up for him.

The Sox also needed pitching, but Getz didn't look to Mason Adams for help.

2 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

The Sox also needed pitching, but Getz didn't look to Mason Adams for help.

Yeah, he got a pricey 1 good start out of 4 Castillo instead.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by WhiteSox2023

19 minutes ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

This is an important point. Given how bad this staff is, how many arms would we have needed to acquire at the deadline to become serious World Series contenders? 2-3 high quality 2/3 starters, a couple bullpen arms capable of consistently surviving high leverage outings, and a catcher who can hit the ball but also play decent defense? I mean, you can't keep Acuna on a WS contender so we'd have to find a replacement for him, I'd imagine.

Do y'all realize we could have emptied out our top 10 prospects and probably still not have a true contending roster? Why the hell would we sacrifice 3-4 top prospects who likely end up in MLB just to win the Central this year? Y'all would be calling for Getz's head come October when the Sox don't even make it out of the ALDS...."HE SACRIFICED OUR FUTURE FOR THIS????"

I do think looking at us versus the other contenders, it is reasonable to think that GetzCo looked at us vs the others and thought of how hard it would be to bridge the gap to be World Series level versus just backing into the playoffs and to decide that it wasn't worth what he would give up in the next few years to get there. I would agree with that sentiment.

10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I do think looking at us versus the other contenders, it is reasonable to think that GetzCo looked at us vs the others and thought of how hard it would be to bridge the gap to be World Series level versus just backing into the playoffs and to decide that it wasn't worth what he would give up in the next few years to get there. I would agree with that sentiment.

When you look at how Montgomery, Antonacci, Murakami, and (prior to the last week or so) Peter’s have been preforming, it only further justifies not going nuts at deadline imo.

if those guys were all still clicking and they were losing games 11-10 I’d get it.

48 minutes ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

This is an important point. Given how bad this staff is, how many arms would we have needed to acquire at the deadline to become serious World Series contenders? 2-3 high quality 2/3 starters, a couple bullpen arms capable of consistently surviving high leverage outings, and a catcher who can hit the ball but also play decent defense? I mean, you can't keep Acuna on a WS contender so we'd have to find a replacement for him, I'd imagine.

Do y'all realize we could have emptied out our top 10 prospects and probably still not have a true contending roster? Why the hell would we sacrifice 3-4 top prospects who likely end up in MLB just to win the Central this year? Y'all would be calling for Getz's head come October when the Sox don't even make it out of the ALDS...."HE SACRIFICED OUR FUTURE FOR THIS????"

Precisely. I don’t think the approach reflected arrogance but caution and a pragmatic acceptance that this fun, way-ahead-of-schedule team is far from a legitimate World Series contender.

I think trading away Tatis, Semien and Bassitt for basically nothing broke Sox fan brains because the prospects traded at the deadline seldom amount to anything. I'd be shocked if Mason Adams becomes anything more than a decent long reliever. It should absolutely tell you something that the Sox are desperate for starting pitching and they still decided to trade him.

All of their acquisitions were acquired with the future (draft pick - Gonzalez has been terrible since the trade) and next year (Brazoban, Castillo, Doyle) in mind as well. They didn't think going all in this year was wise given what they needed and what they had in the minors to go get it. I think that's the right call.

This isn't saying you shouldn't be able to criticize what they've done either. I get grabbing Doyle and Brazoban. If they can get a decent platoon partner for Peters from Doyle that's a huge win. Just from defense alone you're looking at 2+ WAR from CF with those two, even if Peters's offense regresses. Brazoban hopefully returns from injury able to not give up a run every outing. Castillo I sure hope they can help him figure something out, and that's not a move I would've made, but I guess I see the rationale. Boston Smith is also likely a backup catcher at best, if he even sticks there, so I doubt they gave up much of anything.

15 minutes ago, mqr said:

When you look at how Montgomery, Antonacci, Murakami, and (prior to the last week or so) Peter’s have been preforming, it only further justifies not going nuts at deadline imo.

if those guys were all still clicking and they were losing games 11-10 I’d get it.

I think if we had sat there and said, ok add Mason Miller, Tarik Skubal, Adley Ruschman and Casey Mize, spent essentially our top 15 prospects of non-26 drafted guys to do it, I still am not sure I would have put us in that top level of teams, and at that cost, we give up a lot of reinforcements for 27-30. I get feeling it isn't worth it.

9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I think if we had sat there and said, ok add Mason Miller, Tarik Skubal, Adley Ruschman and Casey Mize, spent essentially our top 15 prospects of non-26 drafted guys to do it, I still am not sure I would have put us in that top level of teams, and at that cost, we give up a lot of reinforcements for 27-30. I get feeling it isn't worth it.

Theres also not a single guy on the team that I’m comfortable with saying that yeah they’ll be solid at that position for the next 2-3 years. Some of them will be, some won’t. They need time to sort that all out

Vargas is closest, I guess? But even he’s still a bit unknown, and at what position?

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by mqr

3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Yeah, he got a pricey 1 good start out of 4 Castillo instead.

Getz'll fix 'em!

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

I think if we had sat there and said, ok add Mason Miller, Tarik Skubal, Adley Ruschman and Casey Mize, spent essentially our top 15 prospects of non-26 drafted guys to do it, I still am not sure I would have put us in that top level of teams, and at that cost, we give up a lot of reinforcements for 27-30. I get feeling it isn't worth it.

My general feeling is that the team should've stood pat at the deadline and I would've liked to have kept Adams and Boston, but I think most of us can agree that this is not the year to go "all in" like that. Playin with house money and all. I do like that all of the acquisitions can be in the mix for next season at least. If Castillo's option is triggered for the third year, that's probably a good thing because it means he pitched well enough to reach the innings threshold. Unlikely event if there's a lockout though.

Adams already had a nice debut for the Rockies last night. I don’t think it’s a crazy thought to think that Adams could have improved the team more for this season and going forward than a gold glove CF that can’t hit, considering this current team’s needs.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023

5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Adams already had a nice debut for the Rockies last night. I don’t think it’s a crazy thought to think that Adams could have improved the team more for this season and going forward than a gold glove CF that can’t hit, considering this current team’s needs.

Maybe but we lead the AL in RS by 20. How much more offense we need? We need and needed SP, unfortunately so did a dozen other teams and the price was high. Getz decided we weren't really a WS contender even adding a TOR starter, and is anybody thinking he's wrong? The Castillo trade looks bad right now but a long way to go for both sides in that one and at least we were able to dump Seranthony.

17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Adams already had a nice debut for the Rockies last night. I don’t think it’s a crazy thought to think that Adams could have improved the team more for this season and going forward than a gold glove CF that can’t hit, considering this current team’s needs.

Yeah it's a good point. Didn't realize he debuted, that's awesome. I've been a Doyle and Romo homer for a couple years, I like the potential ceiling, but I do think Adams actually helps the team right now and not sure we could say the same for Doyle. Still has time to produce, I guess, we'll see.