June 27, 200421 yr holy s***, just got home from the game....wow Tell me about it. I just arrived here and this news has nearly brought tears to my eyes. But hey, we attended a White Sox winner, did we not?
June 27, 200421 yr Everyone here was begging for pitching help, begging. Kenny goes and gets us the best starter available in Freddy Garcia, and you guys b****. Look - he might have overpaid a bit, but pitching is what is going to win us this division. Kenny went out and just got us a top of the line pitcher. I know it hurts losing Olivo, but he was only catching two of our four pitchers. We now have Garcia-Buerhle-Loaiza as our Big 3. I'm excited as hell about that... your definitely right, it's just first impressions for most of us are that we definitely overpaid. It probably will pay off in the end though.
June 27, 200421 yr Does anyone know when Freddy is gonna be making his first start for us? I'd assume Wednesday against the Twinkies.
June 27, 200421 yr The Sox rotation has to be the best in the AL Central now!! It already was with Sabathia hurt.
June 27, 200421 yr I'd assume Wednesday against the Twinkies. i would think wednesday also, you figure he'll take rauch's spot in the rotation, then diaz or rauch will pitch friday against the cubs
June 27, 200421 yr Tell me about it. I just arrived here and this news has nearly brought tears to my eyes. But hey, we attended a White Sox winner, did we not? definitely, was a VERY fun game
June 27, 200421 yr I have got to believe KW has something else up his sleeve. He better get us another catcher with a decent future because Olivo was everything the sox had in the C position. Never going to happen but I would love Barret... son of a b****... I guess I see how much I liked Big MO right now, good luck in Seattle
June 27, 200421 yr Mariners fans are orgasming all over this deal. as they should.... the trade works out for both teams.
June 27, 200421 yr Mariners fans are orgasming all over this deal. Do they think they got a good deal or are they pissed off?
June 27, 200421 yr This is a little off topic, but no one's really mentioned that the Twins lost today! Way to go Brewers! Only 1 game back now...
June 27, 200421 yr The only way I will like this deal is if freddy signs long term and the money that was brought in with this trade is able to resign maggs.....i still liked the maggs and rauch for ortiz and jones better, i thought olivo was an untouchable.....
June 27, 200421 yr Damn, first time I see more than 60 users in one single thread. LISTEN UP! Please make sure to reply in CubsSuck1 thread which is contributed to big MO himself.
June 27, 200421 yr I like the deal. I have had enough of can't-miss prospects, I want to win now. I will miss Olivio, but if that is what it took the get him, so be it. Now, go and get ortiz as well!
June 27, 200421 yr This is a little off topic, but no one's really mentioned that the Twins lost today! Way to go Brewers! Only 1 game back now... 1 GB with like 90 games left. That GB could be 10, and it still wouldn't matter. This team is now set for a run. They just took two HUGE games against the Cubs to salvage a series, and this trade happens. We lose Mo, and that hurts like hell(as I said, a swift kick in the groin), but don't think about what we lost, think about what we got gained. We have all the momentum. Whether we use that and go on a run, or we s*** it down the toilet and start to sell a month from now, no matter. We will win, or we will not. It's John Madden logic, but it's true nonetheless. I think we win.
June 27, 200421 yr Kenny is beginning to think about the Cell as I do: pitching & D first, hitting second. In Seattle, they think they got fleeced. They think it's a horrible deal & they should have gotten much more for Garcia. But I think they are thinking in terms of MLB talent. They are getting 3 cheap players who could one day make an all-star team. But they have no idea that's what they are getting. Morse's loss mean Val is likely to stay with the SOX. Valentin is becoming a media icon on the team & his Jose chant is bigger & louder than O-E-O. Plus there is a wealth of statistics available to prove that Val's athleticism will help a team more than a sure-handed glove. His 20-25 HR's a yr makes him a crowd favorite. What hasn't been said about Reed? But let's keep in mind that he projects as a corner OFer & this organization (KW) has proven time & again the ability to get quality players to fill that position both thru FA & drafting. I'm not alone believing that Miguel Olivo is on the verge of greatness. In terms of pitching & D this is the biggest hurt in this trade for the SOX this year. I've heard good things about the guy the SOX are getting in the M's trade to fill Olivo's spot, but there's a better than 50% chance that Olivo is going to put up all-star like numbers in the 2nd half. When it all comes down to it you have to ask a few simple questions: Can Buehrle, E-LO, Garland, (Schow/Diaz/Rauch) beat the A's, the Red Sox, & the Yankees? Because that's the road to the World Series. Do the SOX have the lineup to get to the World Series? Yes. Even the bench is strong. Do the SOX have the bullpen to get to the World Series? No. But picking up Garcia & possibly Ortiz will shift Garland & Schow into a bullpen in a short series & then I think the answer is Yes. Do the SOX have the rotation to get to the World Series? No. Garcia should get them the division but they need Ortiz to get to the World Series. Does any one really have confidence in Garland in the post season? If the rumors are true then getting Andruw Jones & Ortiz for Maggs, cash, & a prospect is the move the SOX need to make. I believe that 1) Borchard will be the prospect & 2) this is the last chance for Maggs. The SOX have a chance to pick up the Braves work horse in Ortiz, & arguably the best CFer in the game for giving up a 1/2 season of Maggs. So either he accepts 70/5 with deferred comp or he's GAWN! Andruw Jones has what I call silent production. He's been #1, #2 in TB's on the Braves 3 yrs in row. Now that to me is pretty significant considering the offensive success the Braves had have in the past. What I love in getting Jones is that Rowand can then move to RF for most of the season & now we have 3 web-gemmers in the OF. The SOX might have the best D OF in the game with Jones & I guarantee you his numbers will improve big time in the SOX lineup. You've got a chance to get a 5 time GG who could be a 30/300/100 guy in this lineup for about 45/3. This is the best answer for the SOX to Minn Torri Hunter. I believe Jones in the Cell will equal more wins over the next 3 yrs than Maggs in RF.
June 27, 200421 yr I just got home from the game. I found out about this in the parking lot, looking for my car. I heard "We just got Freddy Garcia" and I was like, YEAH! Then, I asked who we gave up and I heard Olivo/Reed and I was like "awwwww." I'm glad though. Freddy better come through!!!!!
June 27, 200421 yr 1 GB with like 90 games left. That GB could be 10, and it still wouldn't matter. This team is now set for a run. They just took two HUGE games against the Cubs to salvage a series, and this trade happens. We lose Mo, and that hurts like hell(as I said, a swift kick in the groin), but don't think about what we lost, think about what we got gained. We have all the momentum. Whether we use that and go on a run, or we s*** it down the toilet and start to sell a month from now, no matter. We will win, or we will not. It's John Madden logic, but it's true nonetheless. I think we win. And just wait till Maggs is back. The Sox will start their winning streak and kick ass
June 27, 200421 yr this trade seems better if you think of it as chad bradford, reed, and morse for garcia, davis and cash.
June 27, 200421 yr I say good luck to Miguel Olivo; he is a class act and he's gonna be an allstar. Congrats to KW on getting your man...now sign him to a 3-5 year contract, now, get us a good catcher and re-sign Mags!!! Oh...one more thing...Sox, please go to Minny and kick Twins ass! Congrats, you cubkillers!!! :fthecubs
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