CWSGuy406 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Rotoworld Link Not surprising. Another publication that likes Chris Young, a lot. Gio Gonzalez is also, slowly climbing the ladder as far as White Sox prospects, too. One more stellar season from Gio, and he'll be on everybody's radar. Don't have time to look over the other teams right now, I'm in a hurry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Note how deep the Twins' prospects go....Justin Jones is down on their list and he'd probably be #3 on the Sox's list. Bartlett would probably be #1 on our list. Durbin would be right up there with McCarthy. Kubel would probably be #1 as well. Crain would be in the top 2 in our list. Ugh. Depressing to see just how deep the Twins' farm system is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 05:05 PM) Note how deep the Twins' prospects go....Justin Jones is down on their list and he'd probably be #3 on the Sox's list. Bartlett would probably be #1 on our list. Durbin would be right up there with McCarthy. Kubel would probably be #1 as well. Crain would be in the top 2 in our list. Ugh. Depressing to see just how deep the Twins' farm system is. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I couldn't accept a decade of losing for a farm system like theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 a lot of people were upset because Jeremy Reed was traded to seattle for Freddy. i have no problem with that. we have a whole bunch of of's.(pods,aaron,dye,everett,timo,anderson,sweeney,young...) u can always find a solid of. pitchers dont grow on trees. ....kudos to ozzie for helping out with getting freddy and the long term deal. im excited with anderson, sweeney,Fields, and mcCarthy the most. hopefully they arent busts. :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 The Twinkies farm system has to be drying out sometime soon. They're not getting good picks anymore. But yeah, a decade of losing for 5 good years or so. Ehhh I don't think I'd take it unless there was a World Series thrown into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 frankly Durbin doesnt impress me much in the twins minors. i dont rank him too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 05:05 PM) Note how deep the Twins' prospects go....Justin Jones is down on their list and he'd probably be #3 on the Sox's list. I don't know, I don't really like Justin Jones all that much. He was a repeat in the Midwest League and did much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 04:12 PM) frankly Durbin doesnt impress me much in the twins minors. i dont rank him too high. I agree with you on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Anderson may not have as much upside as a team would like to see from its No. 1 prospect, but he’s a safe pick to settle in as a quality regular for a long time. The 2003 first-rounder projects as a .280-.290 hitter with 20-homer power. He should be able to stay in center field for at least a few years, depending on what happens with Aaron Rowand and Chris Young in the future. He’d be an elite defender in a corner. With Scott Podsednik likely to disappoint, Anderson should have a starting job in 2006. He might be a factor in the second half of this year if injuries are a problem for the White Sox. Um, how does this guy know that SPod is likely to disappoint? :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Feb 4, 2005 -> 01:35 AM) Um, how does this guy know that SPod is likely to disappoint? :headshake Nine years in the minor leagues -- 0 above .300 seasons -- Career minor league avg of .265. -- 112 SB's in 9 minor league seasons -- .347 career minor league slugging %. One major league season with a .314/.379/.443 and 43 SB's One major league season with a .244/.313/.364 and 70 SB's The better question is why would you think that he's likely to impress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Because he's hit in a full season at the major league level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Just take a look at the Twins list, because those guys will all blowup in the bigs and kick our ass for the next 2-5 years. Lew Ford. :headshake How do they do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 11:39 AM) Just take a look at the Twins list, because those guys will all blowup in the bigs and kick our ass for the next 2-5 years. Lew Ford. :headshake How do they do it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A decade of losing and not bringing back free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted February 5, 2005 Author Share Posted February 5, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 06:06 PM) A decade of losing and not bringing back free agents. Good scouting and overall, a better development staff in the minors probably helps them out, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 10:26 AM) Because he's hit in a full season at the major league level? http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/carusmi01.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Caruso is a bad comparison. His OPS for 98 isn't even all that good, .721. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted February 5, 2005 Author Share Posted February 5, 2005 QUOTE(danman31 @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 08:09 PM) Caruso is a bad comparison. His OPS for 98 isn't even all that good, .721. The point still stands that everyone here seems to be so confident in Podsednik, and he's had about one good season... And is a career .260 minor league hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 i wouldnt mind if podsenick hit 270. I dont except his rookie year performance i just expect more than what he did last year hitting wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 5, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) The point still stands that everyone here seems to be so confident in Podsednik, and he's had about one good season... And is a career .260 minor league hitter. I still say if you look at his development in the minors he was improving so thats something that has to be noted. He also has great speed and that can mean that a hitter can carry a similar average at the major league level, especially since he should learn more to make contact as he plays long and with his type of speed that only leads to more hits. I'm not saying he'll hit .300, but slap hitters with his type of speed can be quite sucessful and they don't necessarily need many, if any other tools. Of course thats easier said then done, but I do expect a .270 average out of Spod and think he could maybe hit in the .280 range. Plus his road splits, average wise, weren't all that bad this past year. Obviously he has strides to make, but couldn't you also give the case of him suffering from the sophmore slump. He's not an amazing leadoff hitter, but he's not as bad as some of you all make him out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 05:32 PM) The Twinkies farm system has to be drying out sometime soon. They're not getting good picks anymore. But yeah, a decade of losing for 5 good years or so. Ehhh I don't think I'd take it unless there was a World Series thrown into it. Mark Buehrle was taken in the 38th round. Placido Polanco was taken by the Sox after they drafted Ron Schueler's daughter Mike Piazza was taken by the Dodgers in the 62nd round or so because he was related to someone in the organization(I think Lasorda, but I can't remember exactly). Roger Clemens, one of the greatest pitchers in MLB history, was taken 19th overall in 1983. Names taken in front of him were Tim Belcher(taken #1 overall by the Twins, and did not sign), Jeff Kunkel, and Robbie Wine, and Joel Davis(by us at 13)...plus about 14 others I'm sure you've never heard of...a draft recap of 83. Clemens was starting for Boston in 84, and went 24-4 2.48 ERA .97 WHIP with a BAA of .195, a K/9 of just under 4, and a K/BB of just under 4. Where you pick doesn't matter. Who you pick, and how they develop is what matters. Having good scouts, and having good minor league coaches is what is most important in developing minor leaguers...not having high picks. High picks only occassionally guarantee the huge impact players at the MLB level...Mark Prior, Frank Thomas, Barry Bonds. Scouting is key...and apparently, the Twins have good scouts and and have guys who develop players well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Having high picks certainly increases your margin for error however. But you are correct, that great players come from all over the draft and many players develop later and/or work harder than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I'm not overlyconfident about Pods nor am I really confident. But people are selling him off like he's gonna blow for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Here's the thing about Pods, he had a bad year last year with the stick but still scored 85 runs. Although 85 isn't a ton it's still more then Kotsay and Pods averaged more runs per game then Shannon Stewart did. I made the comparison with those two because both of those guys have high on base percentages but a low amount of stolen bases. Just an interesting comparison, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 i actually dont mind if our team falters this year. I mean yes id like us to succeed but if les say Podsenick has a down year or Jermaine Dye really sucks that just leaves a spot open for Brian Anderson and if El Duque gets injured next year or Contreras still sucks we have a spot for B-Mac. I know i should be optimistic but im not 2 sold on this team so while i would love for them to succeed if they failure ill be ok knowing that those 2 guys arent far away hopefully and that sweeney and fields will be behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Feb 13, 2005 -> 04:09 AM) Having high picks certainly increases your margin for error however. But you are correct, that great players come from all over the draft and many players develop later and/or work harder than others. And there would have definitely been a great success rate for higher draft picks over the last few years, than when the draft first started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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