DBAHO Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Start speculating your deals folks!!! The answer on Willis in particular could change by midseason next year if the Marlins aren't in contention and there's no stadium on the way. His salary figures to climb past $10 million in 2008, at which point top pitching prospects such as Chris Volstad, Gaby Hernandez, Brett Sinkbeil, Sean West and Aaron Thompson could be ready. Rather than dangle Willis and Cabrera this winter to fill gaping holes in center field and in their bullpen, the Marlins could instead package up a few arms from their deep stash of young pitching. Renyel Pinto, Yusmeiro Petit and Jose Garcia figure to top that list. First baseman Mike Jacobs, who offered below-average defense and tailed off badly at the plate in the second half, also could go in the right deal. Don't look for the Marlins to pursue a center fielder via free agency, so shelve those thoughts of a Juan Pierre reunion. Instead, the Marlins will pursue a trade for a budding two-way player with low service time. Brian Anderson (White Sox), Willy Tavares (Astros) and Matt Kemp (Dodgers) all interest the Marlins, according to baseball sources. The Devil Rays' Rocco Baldelli, signed to a below-market deal through at least 2008, might be available in the right deal. The Devil Rays showed interest in Ricky Nolasco last spring, and his inconsistency could prompt the Marlins to part with the 11-game winner if it means getting Baldelli, who will make $750,000 next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I am going to say this right now... there would be about 29 teams who would be interested in Brian Anderson. The guy is going to be good, and everyone in baseball knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 agreed, i don't quite understand the article who are the sox getting in return? and if BA goes to the marlins i will be sad for soxdom, but yet my second favorite team will get an amazing talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(beautox @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 08:11 AM) agreed, i don't quite understand the article who are the sox getting in return? and if BA goes to the marlins i will be sad for soxdom, but yet my second favorite team will get an amazing talent. I think they mean pick up one of the listed outfielders for someone like: the Marlins could instead package up a few arms from their deep stash of young pitching. Renyel Pinto, Yusmeiro Petit and Jose Garcia figure to top that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 there is zero reason to trade Brian Anderson... a guy who batted .257 with excellent range and defense post-All star break and would have done even better if Ozzie would have actually played him daily... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 uuuuh. Maybe we can get Borchard back. Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 08:36 AM) there is zero reason to trade Brian Anderson... a guy who batted .257 with excellent range and defense post-All star break and would have done even better if Ozzie would have actually played him daily... If Dontrelle was involved you would have to listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 07:10 AM) I am going to say this right now... there would be about 29 teams who would be interested in Brian Anderson. The guy is going to be good, and everyone in baseball knows it. except 75% of white sox fans apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(SnB @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 10:26 AM) except 75% of white sox fans apparently. If there is anything I have learned about baseball, its moderation is the key. There really aren't too many fence setters for some reason... Its like you either have to believe the guy is the next coming of Willie Mays, or he needs to be taken out back and put down Old Yeller style. I tend to think Brian is going to be in the upper 25% of CFs once his batting eye develops a little better. I still view him along the samelines as Joe Crede, we might have to wait a while, but it will be pretty when it is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 09:41 AM) If Dontrelle was involved you would have to listen. sorry, i for one think that dontrelle would be worthless the second time around the american league... though he did have a mid-2's era against the likes of baltimore, tampa bay, boston, and the yanks last season... i just dont see it lasting. however, if they wanted to take freddy or jose off our hands as well, which i doubt. id prefer to keep the dream alive with BA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 sorry. I'm not on the Surfer Dude bandwagon in CF. don't see him having any plus offensive tools. Modest power, not a base stealer. he's a solid fielder, but he didn't blow me away with his range or arm. If we can trade him for a SS or a starter, I'm all for it. BA just doesn't play with enough urgency for me -- and Ozzie certainly doesn't seem to love the guy either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 12:45 PM) sorry. I'm not on the Surfer Dude bandwagon in CF. don't see him having any plus offensive tools. Modest power, not a base stealer. he's a solid fielder, but he didn't blow me away with his range or arm. If we can trade him for a SS or a starter, I'm all for it. BA just doesn't play with enough urgency for me -- and Ozzie certainly doesn't seem to love the guy either. Already a top 5 defensive centerfielder in all of baseball. Is he better than Rowand in CF? Yes. Rowand made what are routine plays for BA look difficult because he got poor jumps at times. BA pretty much can get to as many balls as anyone. His arm is above average as well. As far as his offense goes, it was his first full season in the major leagues. If we threw away everyone after their first full year (Crede, Rowand are guys who everyone wanted to get rid of), we'd miss out on a lot of players. Besides, look at BA's 2nd half splits in 2006 and compare them to Rowand's in 2005. BA 2006 .257 .301 .393 Rowand 2005 .264 .326 .431 Not much difference there if you ask me. And this was BA's first season and that was what, the 3rd or 4th year for Rowand? Maybe if our manager quit riding BA in the press and actually played him everyday instead of a joke like Mackowiak in CF, he'd get rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Boz.. just curious why you brought up a Rowand comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 everyone talks about brians secodn half....but am i the only one who thinks his second half still wasnt very good....i mean .257 .301 .393 still stinks..........im not sayin he won't be a good ballplayer, but i think people tend to overrate his second half... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 01:16 PM) Boz.. just curious why you brought up a Rowand comparison. Because I think a lot of people believe that Rowand was a lot better than BA, which to me just isn't the case. I love A Row and all, but I think BA has the potential to be a much better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 12:24 PM) Because I think a lot of people believe that Rowand was a lot better than BA, which to me just isn't the case. I love A Row and all, but I think BA has the potential to be a much better player. it isnt the case.... BA is the better talent than Rowand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuddlyboy26 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 His defence is better then his offense. I dont like the idea of people wanting to trade away guys like Anderson and Crede, they should be the teams future, sign them to long term deals and keep them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 12:46 PM) Your such a crazyman........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 If either Willis or Cabrera are involved...I'm game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 If they would be willing to trade Willis, you would have to listen to any offer. If KW does go after Crawford, he would most likely have to deal McCarthy or one of the other starters. Then if he decides to deal Contreras, Vazquez or Garcia for some other talent, he can fill in the new starter void with Willis. This is pure speculation, i hightly doubt KW trades BMac without even giving him a full season's chance at being a starter. I also don't see Anderson going anywhere. He can only get better. However, this team needs a new leadoff left fielder. So I really hope Tampa would accept a guy like Contreras to go along with a Broadway, Hager type package. (I love speculation!) Only like .09% of it happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 12:16 PM) Boz.. just curious why you brought up a Rowand comparison. That's because he had a piss poor September (.200 AVG). His mid-June was quite good along with all of July (.313) and all of August (.296). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 01:21 PM) That's because he had a piss poor September (.200 AVG). His mid-June was quite good along with all of July (.313) and all of August (.296). But since Aaron isn't coming back it's moot to compare them when thinking up logical trades for Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(daa84 @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 12:20 PM) everyone talks about brians secodn half....but am i the only one who thinks his second half still wasnt very good....i mean .257 .301 .393 still stinks..........im not sayin he won't be a good ballplayer, but i think people tend to overrate his second half... It's improvement. If he hit .200 the whole year, then there is an argument. But, he showed that he was improving before Ozzie started meddling (although I know Oz was just trying to get the best team out of the field). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 If we could get some sort of package for him that included Volstad/Petit and a couple others like an Andino and Tankersley you'd have to consider it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 12:01 PM) It's improvement. If he hit .200 the whole year, then there is an argument. But, he showed that he was improving before Ozzie started meddling (although I know Oz was just trying to get the best team out of the field during winterball). Fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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