Brian Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 6, 2006 -> 09:17 PM) Carlos Arroyo = one of the best, if not the best backup PG in the league today. Arroyo was bearking out in Utah and didn't he have a bad relationship with Sloan? Than in Detroit he never had a chance with all that talent in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Bulls actually looked like they are supposed to tonight. Sefolosha got quite a few minutes as well, good to see that. He NEEDS to prove he can play the point, because Chris Duhon really needs to just go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 The Mavs need to start winning so that the Knicks can have the worst record in basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 6, 2006 -> 11:34 PM) The Mavs need to start winning so that the Knicks can have the worst record in basketball. Yeah, how the hell does anybody, let alone Dallas, lose at home to the WARRIORS?? That's awful. Oh, and Utah won again, against Detroit no less, to move to 4-0. If Kirilenko and Boozer can stay healthy (yeah, I know a big if), they could be pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Thabo is head and shoulders a more talented player than Duhon IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 7, 2006 -> 09:21 AM) Thabo is head and shoulders a more talented player than Duhon IMO. Being 6'6" sure helps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2006 -> 09:38 AM) Being 6'6" sure helps too. With a huge wingspan and better penetration and passing ability. Duhon has to be expendable by now IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 7, 2006 -> 10:18 AM) With a huge wingspan and better penetration and passing ability. Duhon has to be expendable by now IMO. Six foot point guards are literally a dime a dozen in the NBA. Duhon is a solid defender and ballhandler, but he doesn't have the shooting touch to make his value higher than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 7, 2006 -> 09:21 AM) Thabo is head and shoulders a more talented player than Duhon IMO. Oh well of course. I'm just saying I hope Thabo quickly proves he can run the point on offense, because if he does, Thabo will play a lot and Duhon will get Jannero Pargo circa 2005 minutes, which improves this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 7, 2006 -> 04:18 PM) With a huge wingspan and better penetration and passing ability. Duhon has to be expendable by now IMO. Agreed, he has also shown he is an excellent ball hawk with his steals and decent defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Anyone think Duhon's name might be one that comes up in trade talks come Feb.? (especially depending on how the Knickerbockers do?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Jazz 4-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Nov 8, 2006 -> 10:10 AM) Agreed, he has also shown he is an excellent ball hawk with his steals and decent defense. Otis Smith said recently the Magic almost took Thabo at 11 instead of Redick, but they didn't want to take another international player after the Vazquez debacle last time, which is kind of crazy if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 7, 2006 -> 05:20 PM) Anyone think Duhon's name might be one that comes up in trade talks come Feb.? (especially depending on how the Knickerbockers do?) Maybe, but I am not sure he would have much trade value to be honest. Unless the guy has really sharpened up his deep game, there isn't anything about Chris that is that special in the grand scheme of things. He is a good ball player, but 6 foot PGs who can handle and play defense are a dime a dozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 8, 2006 -> 07:07 AM) Maybe, but I am not sure he would have much trade value to be honest. Unless the guy has really sharpened up his deep game, there isn't anything about Chris that is that special in the grand scheme of things. He is a good ball player, but 6 foot PGs who can handle and play defense are a dime a dozen. I'd find a way to acquire Channing Frye. He doesn't seem to be getting a ton of minutes and he could be the final piece to the puzzle, imo. Curry is playing pretty darn well in Isiah's system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 8, 2006 -> 03:14 PM) I'd find a way to acquire Channing Frye. He doesn't seem to be getting a ton of minutes and he could be the final piece to the puzzle, imo. Curry is playing pretty darn well in Isiah's system. Curry is playing well, but we'll see how long he can keep his ass in shape and actually give a damn. As for Frye.....he's Loren Woods with a 15 foot jumper. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 9, 2006 -> 12:45 AM) Curry is playing well, but we'll see how long he can keep his ass in shape and actually give a damn. As for Frye.....he's Loren Woods with a 15 foot jumper. No thanks. Id gladly take whichevr one the Knicks willing to trade Fyre or Lee. I think we need to make a trade soon with all these players we have. Idonno if Pax wants to do it this season with the expiring contract of PJ Brown use it to bring in a star or in the off-season. But I think a trade will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Nov 8, 2006 -> 06:50 PM) Id gladly take whichevr one the Knicks willing to trade Fyre or Lee. I think we need to make a trade soon with all these players we have. Idonno if Pax wants to do it this season with the expiring contract of PJ Brown use it to bring in a star or in the off-season. But I think a trade will happen. Well, we've got Brown's contract, a boat load of 2nd round picks, a full 15 player rotation, Duhon, and if necessary, the Knickerbockers pick...so the Bulls do have a ton of assets to deal. It would be pretty silly of Pax not to at least be in the discussion come trade deadline, as many people/assets as the Bulls have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 8, 2006 -> 08:55 PM) Well, we've got Brown's contract, a boat load of 2nd round picks, a full 15 player rotation, Duhon, and if necessary, the Knickerbockers pick...so the Bulls do have a ton of assets to deal. It would be pretty silly of Pax not to at least be in the discussion come trade deadline, as many people/assets as the Bulls have. He'll be listening, but odds are he won't make a move, because it would hit the salary cap considerations hard with all of the players we have coming up for extentions. We might aquire an expiring contract, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Wow are the Mavericks struggling. 0-4 but they'll get back to old form I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Deron Williams = good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Knicks lose again. Make that 2-6. They should be 0-8. God I can't wait until draft night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 11, 2006 -> 11:04 PM) Deron Williams = good Giving up a pair of 1's to take him instead of Chris Paul is still an epically stupid draft day move. If Deron Williams becomes the best player he can be, he'd only still be maybe equally as good as Chris Paul. And you gave up a pair of 1's to take him over Paul. Just not smart. I love Deron though, with that said, and am glad to see him off to such a great start. He is a very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 09:05 PM) Giving up a pair of 1's to take him instead of Chris Paul is still an epically stupid draft day move. If Deron Williams becomes the best player he can be, he'd only still be maybe equally as good as Chris Paul. And you gave up a pair of 1's to take him over Paul. Just not smart. I love Deron though, with that said, and am glad to see him off to such a great start. He is a very good player. Deron has absolutely no chance of being as good as Chris Paul (Paul has a great ceiling and is already lightyears better than Deron). I like Deron too, but that was an idiotic move the Jazz made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 13, 2006 -> 11:08 PM) Deron has absolutely no chance of being as good as Chris Paul (Paul has a great ceiling and is already lightyears better than Deron). I like Deron too, but that was an idiotic move the Jazz made. He could make it close. Deron could be a much better scorer if his shot is more consistent (which it will be one day IMO), and is already a way better defender. I agree he won't ever be as good, but he could be somewhat close, which turns that trade from one of the worst in NBA history to just a really really bad one. Edited November 14, 2006 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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