Leonard Zelig Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 I live about a mile from Busch Stadium and the Cards fans are going crazy around here. It's kind of annoying for me, but after last year, I know how they feel, and I am very happy for my friends who are Cardinals fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 I think that the most remarkable thing about this year was the fact that the Cardinals managed to act healthy at just the right time. Edmunds, Rolen, Eckstein, all of them were hurt late in the season, but they all found the balls to turn themselves on at the right time to push this team through the playoffs. In some ways, yes, this says something negative about the MLB, because by turning it on at the right time, you can make a disasterous season turn into a great one. But on the other hand, it also says something beautiful about baseball, and that is that baseball has a number of hurdles you must overcome. First, you must survive the 162 game regular season, but then you must find a way to survive 1 5 game series and 2 7 game series. The MLB season tests you in different ways, endurance, intelligence, skill, ability in a short timespan, etc. You want those rings? You have to find a way to win all of those groupings. The Cardinals were not the best team in the 162 game regular season. But combine all of the qualifications, and the Cards won. They got healthy enough at the right time. And there is no one who can take that away from them. Enjoy those Rings Cards. You may not have been the best over 162 games alone, but you were the best over what Major League Baseball asked you to do, and I think that is a totally fair way of evaluating teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 27, 2006 -> 11:29 PM) http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/listranker?id=593 Any vote that doesn't have the 98 Yankees #1 should be throwon out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 28, 2006 -> 12:39 AM) Any vote that doesn't have the 98 Yankees #1 should be throwon out. Because the only thing that ever counts is the Regular season. And there's no variation in talent of opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardsJimEdmonds15 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Already Ordered: [Link] [Link] Still debating wether I wanna get: [Link] - I dont wear hats but it's freakin cool and I may wear it for a change [Link] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baines3 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 I like the last shirt the best. I don't care much for the looks of the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 I think that hoody is pretty cool looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardsJimEdmonds15 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 28, 2006 -> 03:11 PM) Once again, Congrats CardsJimEdmonds15. Enjoy it. Thanks.. I know I am.. I couldnt get to sleep til 7 this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 QUOTE(CardsJimEdmonds15 @ Oct 28, 2006 -> 03:25 PM) Thanks.. I know I am.. I couldnt get to sleep til 7 this morning It's fun aint it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 That damn hat looks way too much like ours. Seriously, why the Hell do you make a Cardinals hat that's mostly black, white, and Grey, with only a little red? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 28, 2006 -> 03:57 PM) I think that hoody is pretty cool looking. Yeah, I loved our parade stuff too. I ended up with a hoody AND the t-shirt of that design. And congrats CardsJE15! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Oct 27, 2006 -> 11:05 PM) They are certainly the worst team in recent memory to win a World Series, but I see no reason for MLB to be embarrassed. Frankly, I prefer it this way. Remember all the talk about the lack of parity in the league when the big payroll teams like the Yankees were winning championships every year? I'm glad that there is the potential for a major surprise every season. I'm glad that more teams (yes, even the "not-so-great" teams) have a chance to win it all. And I like the idea that its open season for any team that is fortunate to make the playoffs. There is nothing wrong with sliding into the playoffs and rising to the occasion when it counts the most. It sure as hell takes away from the trade deadline and makes it a hell of a lot less important, I'll say that for sure. If a team can sneak into the playoffs by completely backing in, getting hot, and winning the World Series because the opposing team s***s their pants, what's that do for the other 28 teams in the majors? It tells them that if they have a record somewhat close to .500(as in within 8-10 games of any divisional race), they'll feel as though they have as good a shot as any other to get hot and sneak into the postseason, when in reality, it's not even close. That leads to only 5-7 teams trading every year, which in turn does not allow for many teams to upgrade their 25-man, which will undoubtedly turn into something along the lines of a team trading a key piece that's struggling for a piece that they need. I'm happy as hell for the Cards, completely disappointed with how mediocre the World Series was(in large part because the Sox weren't in it for the first time since 2004), and pissed as hell that in the Cards worst year since 1999, they win the World Series. It's just completely frustrating. For pure baseball fans that want parity, this is a huge moment. For huge hot stove fans, and fans that look to see their team improved at the trade deadline, it kinda sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 I bet Cards fans care as much about being called the "worst World Series winners ever" as much as we cared about people calling the Sox "lucky" after the Graffanino error, the AJ "steal of first" and the Biggio dropped popup. Which is to say, not one bit at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 27, 2006 -> 09:39 PM) Was anyone else kinda suprised at the fan reaction in St.Louis right after the win? Kinda seemed a little dull for a K to end the series.... I was thinking that too, even the team kind of, and Buck's call at the end sucked too. Hell, if the Sox won at home and I'm there, I'm going on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 QUOTE(The Critic @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 01:21 PM) I bet Cards fans care as much about being called the "worst World Series winners ever" as much as we cared about people calling the Sox "lucky" after the Graffanino error, the AJ "steal of first" and the Biggio dropped popup. Which is to say, not one bit at all. I don't think anyone is trying to make Cardinals fans feel worse about winning. In fact, I'd say nearly all of us are happy to have seen them win. It's just practically undeniable that this is the worst WS champion any of us have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 I'm kinda dissapointed that the American League was so domininat but lost to a team that finished with the 13th best record in baseball. But that's baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 12:34 PM) I don't think anyone is trying to make Cardinals fans feel worse about winning. In fact, I'd say nearly all of us are happy to have seen them win. It's just practically undeniable that this is the worst WS champion any of us have ever seen. I realize that, but I know we have several big-time Cards fans on the site, and it just looks like people are pissing on their team, instead of congratulating them for winning despite serious injuries to most of their better players throughout the season. If they had Isringhausen, Mulder, Bigbie, Rolen for the whole year, Edmonds for the whole year, (even Pujols missed some time), they'd probably have been a "better" team. They played with who they had, and they won the whole damn thing. That should be respected and celebrated, not spit on, in my opinion, especially from a fanbase who've used injuries as an excuse over the past few years ourselves. ("If we hadn't lost Frank and Magglio....") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 04:15 PM) but alot of Sox fans on here sounded like they had ALOT of sour grapes...... You better believe it and I'm in that group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 05:26 PM) You better believe it and I'm in that group. Okay Hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 05:27 PM) Okay Hawk. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 04:27 PM) Okay Hawk. Where else would I find terminology like that? I use that all the time now because of Mr. Harrelson. Edited October 30, 2006 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 QUOTE(The Critic @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 04:10 PM) I realize that, but I know we have several big-time Cards fans on the site, and it just looks like people are pissing on their team, instead of congratulating them for winning despite serious injuries to most of their better players throughout the season. If they had Isringhausen, Mulder, Bigbie, Rolen for the whole year, Edmonds for the whole year, (even Pujols missed some time), they'd probably have been a "better" team. They played with who they had, and they won the whole damn thing. That should be respected and celebrated, not spit on, in my opinion, especially from a fanbase who've used injuries as an excuse over the past few years ourselves. ("If we hadn't lost Frank and Magglio....") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 I think it's fine to criticize them, my outlook on STL changed a lot after we raped them and they acted like complete babies about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(The Critic @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 04:10 PM) I realize that, but I know we have several big-time Cards fans on the site, and it just looks like people are pissing on their team, instead of congratulating them for winning despite serious injuries to most of their better players throughout the season. If they had Isringhausen, Mulder, Bigbie, Rolen for the whole year, Edmonds for the whole year, (even Pujols missed some time), they'd probably have been a "better" team. They played with who they had, and they won the whole damn thing. That should be respected and celebrated, not spit on, in my opinion, especially from a fanbase who've used injuries as an excuse over the past few years ourselves. ("If we hadn't lost Frank and Magglio....") Well the thing is they really didn't battle through the injuries during the regular season, they won 83 games which is the same amount of games we won in 2004 without Maggs and Frank. Look, I do have sour grapes cause I'm pissed off after watching that World Series knowing the Sox on talent alone could have ran through this damn thing but I hope the Cards fans enjoy this, there team did win it. I just don't respect this team that much. They did win the Series though and no one can take that away from them. Edited October 30, 2006 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 29, 2006 -> 10:26 PM) Well the thing is they really didn't battle through the injuries during the regular season, they won 83 games which is the same amount of games we won in 2004 without Maggs and Frank. Look, I do have sour grapes cause I'm pissed off after watching that World Series knowing the Sox on talent alone could have ran through this damn thing but I hope the Cards fans enjoy this, there team did win it. I just don't respect this team that much. They did win the Series though and no one can take that away from them. I just think your anger (for lack of a better term) is misdirected. The Cardinals didn't break any rules to get in, they just won a bad division. The 2004 Sox didn't get in with the same record, but that's not StL's fault either. The Sox have no one to blame but themselves for their failure to qualify, but that takes nothing away from what the Cardinals did. One thing has nothing to do with the other. And bear in mind that in the postseason the Cardinals beat the best team in the NL record-wise and the team that was the best in the AL for most of the season, so I think that deserves some respect as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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