Wow. I just now found out that the guitarist of sleigh bells used to be the guitarist of Posion the Well, who I used tonlive back in my metal/hardcore days.

 

Makes sense those cause I really dug those noise guitar riffs and they were pretty heavy....

Anyone who's into their House / Electro Music here, Wolfgang Gartner did a pretty cool 2 hour mix for te BBC Radio 1 Essential Mix tonight.

 

Definitely recommend a listen.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006wkfp

I'll probably catch flak for the gross overgeneralization I'm about to make, but I'll do it anyway. In my experience, the "hipster/indie" type is the most elitist. I've run into way too many people that will essentially say things like, "Oh, you like stuff on the RADIO? All that stuff is crap." or will only like bands no one has heard of, or they think that identifying with some esoteric band will make them cool.

 

I hate to say that my taste in music might be best described as that hipster/indie. Probably a little more pop punk than what OP is thinking. I find it easiest to connect to personally, maybe it's my age. I get my dose of popular music at college parties and when I forget my iPod driving my car.

Probably a little more pop punk than what OP is thinking.

Random tangent, but there are very few phrases I hate more than "pop punk." The two words (and musical genres) contradict themselves. It's like saying something is dry wet. Just awful.

 

I also hate the music in that "genre", but that's beside the point I'm going for here.

Edited November 7, 201015 yr by Felix

Random tangent, but there are very few phrases I hate more than "pop punk." The two words (and musical genres) contradict themselves. It's like saying something is dry wet. Just awful.

 

I also hate the music in that "genre", but that's beside the point I'm going for here.

 

I dunno if the term is totally without merit. Even way back before the age of Green Day, bands like the Buzzcocks and early xtc, Jilted John, the Undertones, etc., were all coming out of a punk tradition but with a lot more pop sensibility and tongue-in-cheek delivery than the first wave of punk music. I think pop punk, punk power pop, etc., is useful as a broad stroke to categorize these groups.

 

And for the record, I love all of that stuff.

Edited November 7, 201015 yr by FlaSoxxJim

I dunno if the term is totally without merit. Even way back before the age of Green Day, bands like the Buzzcocks and early xtc, Jilted John, the Undertones, etc., were all coming out of a punk tradition but with a lot more pop sensibility and tongue-in-cheek delivery than the first wave of punk music. I think pop punk, punk power pop, etc., is useful as a broad stroke to categorize these groups.

 

And for the record, I love all of that stuff.

 

Quoted for truth.

I dunno if the term is totally without merit. Even way back before the age of Green Day, bands like the Buzzcocks and early xtc, Jilted John, the Undertones, etc., were all coming out of a punk tradition but with a lot more pop sensibility and tongue-in-cheek delivery than the first wave of punk music. I think pop punk, punk power pop, etc., is useful as a broad stroke to categorize these groups.

 

And for the record, I love all of that stuff.

 

I'm with him, but of course I'm the one that used the term in question!

I dunno if the term is totally without merit. Even way back before the age of Green Day, bands like the Buzzcocks and early xtc, Jilted John, the Undertones, etc., were all coming out of a punk tradition but with a lot more pop sensibility and tongue-in-cheek delivery than the first wave of punk music. I think pop punk, punk power pop, etc., is useful as a broad stroke to categorize these groups.

 

And for the record, I love all of that stuff.

I don't doubt that when the sound was first coined there was some merit to it, but I think the majority of the bands that get that title today hardly fall into it. Regardless of that, the phrase "pop punk" still remains stupid and should be called something else.

What do you suggest

I think you have me confused for a creative type. I'm not here to create, simply here to criticize.

How about "Adult Contemporary Punk" or "Radio Friendly Punk?"

How about "Adult Contemporary Punk" or "Radio Friendly Punk?"

 

"Pussified Punk?"

Edited November 8, 201015 yr by FlaSoxxJim

WHile we're on the subject of "punk", there's one thing that's always bugged me. When their "fans" give up on a band for "Selling out" it is seriously the most counter-productive and stubborn act of fandom ever.

 

It goes for all genre's of music, but especially in the punk world.

 

I'm a pretty progressive guy with my musical tastes, I dig (and encourage) when bands attempt to change it up a little bit and grow musically or lyrically. Sometimes it clicks with me and I really enjoy it and sometimes it doesn't, but I don't vilify them for trying.

 

People that expect bands who form when they're 20 to sound exactly like that in 10 years, 15 years (if you last that long) is idiotic. As are bands who actually do that, but that's another topic...

"Pussified Punk?"

That's what I was going to say originally, but figured I'd piss off more people than my first comment made.

 

It is true, though

That's what I was going to say originally, but figured I'd piss off more people than my first comment made.

 

It is true, though

 

It's alright, I've accepted the inherent femininity of my taste in music. I've been to the concerts, and it's usually 75% girls and most guys are hipster types. I've accepted that I may be the only college baseball player/athlete/non hipster or skater male at any given concert I go to, or buying albums, etc.

That's what I was going to say originally, but figured I'd piss off more people than my first comment made.

 

It is true, though

 

I was helping the thread along, but I quite enjoy the genre from the late 70s through early 80s.

I was helping the thread along, but I quite enjoy the genre from the late 70s through early 80s.

I have no opinion on the genre from the 70s and 80s. The trash from the 00s though... yeah....

pop punk is great.

Rolling Stone gives Kanye's new album 5 stars.

Soundgarden on Conan tonight.

Soundgarden on Conan tonight.

 

D'oh!! I forgot.

Rolling Stone gives Kanye's new album 5 stars.

 

Dude may be a tool, but he makes some good tunes.

D'oh!! I forgot.

 

You didn't miss much, they played the "new" song and it was very lackluster... Should have dropped a hit on the Conan crowd....

There is also a web-only song, their first ever single according to the captions.

New Cudi album is solid.