spiderman Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Williams: Forget deal for A-Rod WHITE SOX | GM knows economics don't allow it Alex Rodriguez is ready to hit the free-agent market after revealing Sunday that he was opting out of his Yankees contract. And don't think for one second that the hair on the back of Ken Williams' neck didn't stand up for a brief moment as the White Sox general manager once again had visions of pursing the all-world infielder. Rodriguez was on Williams' radar as far back as the 2000-01 offseason, the GM's first months on the job, and again when Rodriguez was traded by the Texas Rangers before the '04 season. He wound up with the Yankees and is walking out on the final three years of his 10-year, $252 million contract. This time around, it didn't take long for Williams to come back down to earth. ''When I heard the number ... put it this way: I heard that number, and I haven't spent one minute thinking about it,'' Williams said. ''For our purposes, we would very quickly run the average fan out of our ballpark ... our economic situation wouldn't allow for something like that.'' Passing on Rodriguez doesn't mean that Williams won't be looking at other big-name free agents. With the conclusion of the World Series, he was awaiting the early list of free agents who already have filed, with the recruiting process about to begin. ''Full go,'' Williams said when asked about his offseason mind-set. ''As we speak, I'm waiting for contact from [assistant GM] Rick [Hahn] on the list of free agents. As they start to trickle in, I'll start making some visits to people.'' The postseason was a painful one for Williams. He watched most of it from his sofa, flipping channels when the anxiety grew to a point of intolerance. ''We have unfinished business,'' Williams said. ''I didn't like the taste I had in my mouth watching from my couch.'' The first order of business is expected to come swiftly, with the club having to make decisions on the contract options of outfielder Darin Erstad, reliever Mike Myers and shortstop Juan Uribe. Williams expects to inform Erstad and Myers quickly of the decision. The call on Uribe could come next week, with the deadline looming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockren Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I suppose it was inevitable...still nice to have a formality on the situation quickly, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Sigh... I really thought we'd give it a shot. Oh well, it would have been extremely nice, but only one team can come up with the prize of the FA class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockren Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 QUOTE(spiderman @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 06:06 AM) ''When I heard the number ... put it this way: I heard that number, and I haven't spent one minute thinking about it,'' Williams said. ''For our purposes, we would very quickly run the average fan out of our ballpark ... our economic situation wouldn't allow for something like that.'' Â It's comments like these that make me hate KW. He's just too candid for his own good sometimes and ends up sounding like an ass-bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 In this situation, I think Kenny's big mouth is a good thing. Its one less GM that Borass can use to try to drive his price up against other people. If more GMs did this, it would make it much harder for this guy to get his big money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 06:25 AM) In this situation, I think Kenny's big mouth is a good thing. Its one less GM that Borass can use to try to drive his price up against other people. If more GMs did this, it would make it much harder for this guy to get his big money. Exactly. Don't think for a second that this was some off the cuff comment. He knew exactly what he was saying. And even if the Sox were thinking about it, they obviously weren't thinking a number that high, so this is exactly the response that makes sense. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 That's funny, I never even considered it a remote possibility so what exactly am I supposed to forget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 QUOTE(rockren @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 05:26 AM) It's comments like these that make me hate KW. He's just too candid for his own good sometimes and ends up sounding like an ass-bag. Â I don't think KW being realistic about making the Sox inaccessable to the average fan makes him an ass-bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 07:25 AM) In this situation, I think Kenny's big mouth is a good thing. Its one less GM that Borass can use to try to drive his price up against other people. If more GMs did this, it would make it much harder for this guy to get his big money. Â Drive the price up really high and hurt a team financially for being stupid. The owners and GM's are the fools for tripping over themselves to pony up the cash. Keep your hat in the ring and cost the Angels another $50M that they can not spend next offseason. Â The sad thing about his quote is losing 90 games at he current price will drive away the common fan much quicker than the price of winning. Edited October 30, 2007 by Jenks Heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Maybe this idea will appeal to everyone. Sign A-Rod, Double ticket prices across the board and put the Sox on PPV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 QUOTE(rockren @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 06:26 AM) It's comments like these that make me hate KW. He's just too candid for his own good sometimes and ends up sounding like an ass-bag. So him saying that the ridiculous number they are asking for is ridiculous makes him an ass-bag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 08:53 AM) Drive the price up really high and hurt a team financially for being stupid. The owners and GM's are the fools for tripping over themselves to pony up the cash. Keep your hat in the ring and cost the Angels another $50M that they can not spend next offseason. Â The sad thing about his quote is losing 90 games at he current price will drive away the common fan much quicker than the price of winning. It was never going to be us driving up the price. There are maybe 4 teams in all of baseball that can afford his contract, and its no secret that we arent one of them. Edited October 30, 2007 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I think the other teams ownerships and GM's are well aware that the Sox will not outbid every other team for ARod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 And, why would he come here even if the Sox offered $ 300 mil. for 10 years but the Angels, Dodgers, Red Sox or Tigers offered $ 290 mil. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockren Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 09:23 AM) So him saying that the ridiculous number they are asking for is ridiculous makes him an ass-bag? Â Nope. It's how arrogant KW always is. Dating way back to the Mike Sirotka trade and how he handled that in the media after it happened. The way he handled Frank said NOTHING and KW threw a crying tirade. Â KW could've said something to the effect that yeah ARod is a great player, but he takes the route and says "Oh it didn't even take me a second to think about it." Â KW is a good GM and has forgotten more about baseball than I know. However, personality wise...the guy is a piss-ant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 guys this is Kenny we're talking about... Â this just means that we ARE really going for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I just wish they would quietly not get involved instead of this being the first thing we hear from them every off season. I wouldnt deal with this ridiculous salary either, just stop making it sound like everything they do is based on money. Geez I'm tired of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 QUOTE(rockren @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 08:36 AM) Nope. It's how arrogant KW always is. Dating way back to the Mike Sirotka trade and how he handled that in the media after it happened. The way he handled Frank said NOTHING and KW threw a crying tirade. KW could've said something to the effect that yeah ARod is a great player, but he takes the route and says "Oh it didn't even take me a second to think about it."  KW is a good GM and has forgotten more about baseball than I know. However, personality wise...the guy is a piss-ant. So it hasn't occurred to you that maybe he says these things for a reason? That they are orchestrated statements with a purpose?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 09:45 AM) I just wish they would quietly not get involved instead of this being the first thing we hear from them every off season. I wouldnt deal with this ridiculous salary either, just stop making it sound like everything they do is based on money. Geez I'm tired of that Its over 30 million a year. EVERY team is making this decision based on money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 BOR-ASS = no chance for A-Rod. JR will not spend that kind of money on anyone. I hope KW will get some decent players this winter not the bottom shelf CHEAP scraps of 2007. Mr. Smugass needs to do his job better in offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Thank the lord we're not signing him. No player is worth that money. The ratio of money to skill for ARod is not a fair one. If he hits about 15 more RBIs than most stars, that isn't worth an extra 10 million a year for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Kenny said that? Sweet, welcome to the South Side Alex! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 QUOTE(rockren @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 05:26 AM) It's comments like these that make me hate KW. He's just too candid for his own good sometimes and ends up sounding like an ass-bag. Â An assbag telling the truth. Â He's absolutely right. Fans are b****ing and moaning about ticket prices in the $40 range and he knows damn straight the pissy whining that would take place if they had to raise prices to $70 - which is what would have to happen to support a payroll that included ARod. Â Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I pray they dump uribe, erstad, and myers. If 2007 proved anything its that these guys are not the answer to winning baseball games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 QUOTE(rockren @ Oct 30, 2007 -> 08:36 AM) Nope. It's how arrogant KW always is. Dating way back to the Mike Sirotka trade and how he handled that in the media after it happened. The way he handled Frank said NOTHING and KW threw a crying tirade. KW could've said something to the effect that yeah ARod is a great player, but he takes the route and says "Oh it didn't even take me a second to think about it."  KW is a good GM and has forgotten more about baseball than I know. However, personality wise...the guy is a piss-ant.   Ahhh.. I see where you are coming from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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