BigSqwert Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 08:39 AM) This deal is dead. I don't think the Sox have anything going on. Yeah. What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 possibly thread title changing time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Ken Rosenthal reports today, that the Sox are still talking to the Reds. The Jermaine Dye-to-the-Reds discussions continue at a "moderate" level, but for the moment the White Sox continue to plan on Dye being their Opening Day right fielder, according to a major-league source. A deal for Dye was indeed close before Thanksgiving, the source said, with the White Sox expected to receive right-hander Homer Bailey and perhaps another prospect in return. The trade, however, stalled in part due to questions about how much the White Sox would pay of Dye's $11.5 million salary next season. The amount they paid would have affected the quality of the second prospect in the deal. Now, the Reds simply might wait to determine whether they can sign a free-agent outfielder such as Bobby Abreu or Pat Burrell at a comparable salary without giving up any players in a trade. Edited December 10, 2008 by SOXOBAMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hmmm… the Reds just got 3 million from the Orioles. I’m assuming we’d be willing to chip in what it would of cost for a Uribe (4.5) So, I’m guessing it’s a fight over roughly 3-4 mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 It's now a staring contest. The only reason Williams would deal Dye is because he believes he can get another outfielder to sign with the club. The only reason Jocketty would trade for Dye is because he feels he can't get another outfielder to sign with the club. But, if KW signs an outfielder, he then has to trade Dye below value because the Sox would have no room for him. If Jocketty loses out on the outfielders, he gets boned because the Sox won't deal Dye and he'll have to work with a reclamation project via trade (like Jose Guillen, who the Royals would have to pay a lot for) or via free agency, like Juan Rivera. The ball is in your court, Walt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 12:27 PM) Hmmm… the Reds just got 3 million from the Orioles. I’m assuming we’d be willing to chip in what it would of cost for a Uribe (4.5) So, I’m guessing it’s a fight over roughly 3-4 mill. I think its more likely a fight over the 2nd prospect. The Sox don't send money out in trades. I'm guessing it is something like... --Sox want Bailey + good prospect --Reds say OK, if you give us $4m --Sox say no, but maybe a lower level prospect instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Burrell makes no sense because they have Dunn. Burrell can't play right. That leaves Abreu, which would make sense except he's probably pursued by the Cubs who might over pay for him, especially if they don't get Peavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 They have Dunn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Dunn's gone. The problem with Burell is that he wants a lot of years in a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Whoops, Dunns gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam G Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 9, 2008 -> 09:11 AM) Actually since the company is in bankruptcy they may be able to get more deals done then if Zell was making the decisions. As long as there is a solid business reason for the transaction the court appointed trustee will allow it especially if it increases the odds of the company netting a larger profit. The team isn't in bankruptcy and the BK trustee has no say over any of this. The Trib's filing does not effect the Cubs, from a legal standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (Adam G @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 01:09 PM) The team isn't in bankruptcy and the BK trustee has no say over any of this. The Trib's filing does not effect the Cubs, from a legal standpoint. Almost true. According to Crain's, the sale will still have to clear a bankruptcy judge. But the process itself and the associated financials, supposedly, should be clean of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Speculation that the White Sox entering the FA market is contingent on a Dye for pitching trade. http://danny-knobler.blogs.sportsline.com/...e=rss_blogs_MLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 02:31 PM) Speculation that the White Sox entering the FA market is contingent on a Dye for pitching trade. http://danny-knobler.blogs.sportsline.com/...e=rss_blogs_MLB If true, KW must really believe the Free Agent dominos are going to fall very slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) If true, KW must really believe the Free Agent dominos are going to fall very slowly. Brad Penny will still be around for awhile. There's no rush. We're not getting the top dogs for 3 yrs/ $24 million and that's probably our budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 QUOTE (heirdog @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 01:49 PM) Brad Penny will still be around for awhile. There's no rush. We're not getting the top dogs for 3 yrs/ $24 million and that's probably our budget. I still don't understand anyone's fascination with Brad Penny, other than as someone to go out partying with BA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 08:43 PM) I still don't understand anyone's fascination with Brad Penny, other than as someone to go out partying with BA. Hey! That’s a underrated statistic now that Toby’s gone. http://www.lvrj.com/columnists/normclarke/...tml?normBN=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 09:13 PM) Hey! That’s a underrated statistic now that Toby’s gone. http://www.lvrj.com/columnists/normclarke/...tml?normBN=true Carlos Quentin is such a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 06:13 PM) Hey! That’s a underrated statistic now that Toby’s gone. http://www.lvrj.com/columnists/normclarke/...tml?normBN=true That settles it. Our regular starting OF next year will be Owens, Wise, Dye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 09:36 PM) That settles it. Our regular starting OF next year will be Owens, Wise, Dye. The 3 guys that never get invited to any party. The Buzz Killington's of the Chicago WhiteSox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 08:31 PM) Speculation that the White Sox entering the FA market is contingent on a Dye for pitching trade. http://danny-knobler.blogs.sportsline.com/...e=rss_blogs_MLB Makes sense. Clear Dye's money off the payroll, add a SP and maybe a corner OF'er who's still looking for work in January. Pick up whatever you need by the trade deadline with a re-built farm system if in contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Reds are talking to Baldelli and Riviera. Dye trade still in stasis. http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/..._agent_out.html. Come on, Kenny. Get moving... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 09:38 PM) Reds are talking to Baldelli and Riviera. Dye trade still in stasis. http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/..._agent_out.html. Come on, Kenny. Get moving... That ship has sailed. The Reds have about 10 mill to spend. And the Whitesox don't move money in the other direction in trades. If they want to trade Dye this offseason is his highest value. Moving him at the deadline in the season will get us 2nd tiered crap. So its either move him now, or let it ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 09:41 PM) That ship has sailed. The Reds have about 10 mill to spend. And the Whitesox don't move money in the other direction in trades. If they want to trade Dye this offseason is his highest value. Moving him at the deadline in the season will get us 2nd tiered crap. So its either move him now, or let it ride. Pretty much summed it up. The White Sox are done for the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 The White Sox are taking the extreme approach to this recesion and are gonna play the cheap game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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