soxfan420 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I know it is early but i have loved this guy for years and he would fill one of our holes next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam785 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 idk what it would take but, if we can get him, we should! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 TB would have to decline his $10 mil option and the Sox would probably need to offer more than any team in the majors - most likely $15+ mil for 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Or they can pick up the option and then trade him to us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 12:37 AM) Or they can pick up the option and then trade him to us... Which would cost Hudson, Flowers and others probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) That would cost so much dear god I dont wanna decimate the farm's pitching any further. Maybe down the line we could package Flowers and Mitchell? It would hurt to give that up but TB has been open to going the youth movement route. And we'd be pretty darn stacked at that point. Edited August 4, 2009 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 What would it take to get Carl Crawford? Whatever it takes is my response. This guy has been one of my favorite players to watch over the past 5 seasons and he would make our lineup that much more dangerous. Just imagining a lineup with both Beckham and Crawford in it makes me gitty!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) What would it take to get Carl Crawford? Whatever it takes is my response. This guy has been one of my favorite players to watch over the past 5 seasons and he would make our lineup that much more dangerous. Just imagining a lineup with both Beckham and Crawford in it makes me gitty!! What about resigning Pods for one more year and hoping Mitchell has a really quick year in 2010 in AA/AAA? I kinda think if he keeps doing well in Kanny he will go to the AFL and tear it up and then get a ST invite and then AA. Kinda like Beckham. Edited August 4, 2009 by chisoxfan09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 01:24 AM) What about resigning Pods for one more year and hoping Mitchell has a really quick year in 2010 in AA/AAA? I kinda think if he keeps doing well in Kanny he will go to the AFL and tear it up and then get a ST invite and then AA. Kinda like Beckham. It seems Mitchell (despite SEC pedigree too) is more of a raw or unfinished product who will need at least two years in the minors from all reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 KW has loved Crawford for years and if there was any possibility of him being in a White Sox uniform he would have been here by now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 The Peavy deal allows them to move Danks or Floyd and only need to find a number 4 in the rotation........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 08:31 AM) The Peavy deal allows them to move Danks or Floyd and only need to find a number 4 in the rotation........ f*** that. f*** that right in its ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 John Danks, Dan Hudson and Tyler Flowers AT LEAST. And that's why it will never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 10:38 AM) f*** that. f*** that right in its ass. was thinking something along these lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Escobar Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) We'll have to wait until Free Agency most likely. However if he isnt dealt before the season and tampa continues to get bomed in this economy then he could probably be had for much cheaper then we think. They can't afford him - and the league knows it. I think they'd take one prospect of a Flowers caliber and two lesser ones with upside. He'll be much more attainable then we all think. Edited August 4, 2009 by Pumpkin Escobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Sox Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I can't believe we are so late in the year and just now getting a Carl Crawford thread. That must be some sort of record. Crawford will cost sooooo much, and with Mitchell being hailed as a Crawford clone I just don't see how we pick him up. I'd love to have him, but it would take eveything we had left on the farm and then some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Escobar Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) Why does everyone think he is going to cost as much as I am interpreting them to? He may be a Free Agent this offseason if they don't exercise his option in fear of not being able to deal him. They've been very clear about needing to move Crawford's 11.5 mil next season, their attempts to move the expensive and terrible Kazmir, as well as their potential need to move Pena/Burrell. No doubt Crawford is an amazing talent and that is why we think he is going to cost a ton under normal circumstances. But we've seen reluctancy to deal prospects almost everywhere but a handful of teams, the economy is horrible for teams wanting to add 11 million in a trade, and tampa cannot afford the guy. Maybe I am just misunderstand what everyone perceives as a ton because I'm looking at what a guy like Holliday got and guys like Sabathia and they hold more weight then Crawford and weren't on teams desperate to deal payroll away. Crawford will command good players. 3 of them. One top 50 kind of prospect. Flowers is who I see it as. Then I'll say two arms in single-A with good upside. They dont have multiple years on his contract and if they dont deal him in the offseason, his value is only going to go down just that much mroe by the deadline. He won't get a Lee package, or a Halladay, or a Holliday even. He'll get a very good package but Tampa understands their situation and seem more willing to building around Longoria, Upton, Price and their prospects instead of Crawford, Pena and Kazmir. Edited August 4, 2009 by Pumpkin Escobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 QUOTE (Pumpkin Escobar @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 11:08 AM) Crawford will command good players. 3 of them. One top 50 kind of prospect. Flowers is who I see it as. Then I'll say two arms in single-A with good upside. They dont have multiple years on his contract and if they dont deal him in the offseason, his value is only going to go down just that much mroe by the deadline. No way the Rays accept that package. It will take at least two top 100 prospects (one top 50) and possibly another high-upside guy to get him IMO. We're talking about two advanced players (AA/AAA) who will be able to contribute in the next two years. Something like Flowers and Hudson. The last guy would be probably need to be a high-upside arm like Leesman or Infante who's farther away from helping. I would not trade that kind of talent for one year of Crawford, especially with Mitchell in the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Escobar Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 01:47 PM) No way the Rays accept that package. It will take at least two top 100 prospects (one top 50) and possibly another high-upside guy to get him IMO. We're talking about two advanced players (AA/AAA) who will be able to contribute in the next two years. Something like Flowers and Hudson. The last guy would be probably need to be a high-upside arm like Leesman or Infante who's farther away from helping. I would not trade that kind of talent for one year of Crawford, especially with Mitchell in the system. Thats what I would assume but seeing those packages given to Oakland and Cleveland - the top 100 thing is tough to call. A sure fire, consensus top 50 guy plus two 1st-2nd rounders with upside. Regardless of what they're projected to be or doing should be enough. I'm sure they'll ask for more and probably could get more but if things don't turn around for them and several other teams economically - itll only leave X amount of teams able to make a play. The Mets? Yankees maybe but they have enough OF. Cubs have an 18 million investment in LF already. Boston will most likely have Bay or anything else they want. Phili has 3 Allstar OF and 2 top-tier OF in the minors. Angels have too many. Dodgers have too many. Holliday will take someone out of this equation also. Who else would be interested and able to take on that salary? I shouldnt be saying he isn't worth more - not sure if I did or didnt - but I'm saying based on what we've seen economically, unwillingness to deal prospects, and what the compensation was in the trades that did happen for better talent than Crawford - I just don't see them getting a huge haul like they should/want. They'll get a very good one but I think they'll peak around what Holliday got. Which was 1 top-flight prospect and two lower level arms with upside (both first rounders I believe). And I agree with you anything more than that or like the offer you project from our club is not worth it us. Edited August 4, 2009 by Pumpkin Escobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 10:59 AM) John Danks, Dan Hudson and Tyler Flowers AT LEAST. And that's why it will never happen. What? I'd offer John Danks for him straight up and if they ask for someone like Flowers then they're just not serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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