December 16, 200916 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 03:58 PM) I don't even remember this Julio Ramirez character...I must have blocked him out of my mind or something... We got him from Florida straight up for Jeff Abbott.
December 16, 200916 yr QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 03:28 PM) In no particular order...trying to go with guys that had atleast a partial full-time role at some point: Willie Harris Harsh.
December 16, 200916 yr im really surprised dwise isn't being hung out to dry here in this thread...... I was hoping it was because like Sally Field, people like me. They realize I would sob upon reading Weezy's name over and over. My list: I despised Clayton. I really didn't like Erstad. All those backup catchers who have sucked. Betemit really was bad. Boone Logan was oh, so bad. Rios gets a clean slate with me. I really am hoping he hits next year. He is fun to watch defensively gliding after the ball. If he goes oh for April, however, I may have a stroke.
December 16, 200916 yr QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 02:33 PM) 15. Julio Ramirez 14. Felix Diaz 13. Mike MacDougal 12. Jose Paniagua 11. Brian Anderson 10. Jerry Owens 9. Arnie Munoz 8. Ben Davis 7. Andy Gonzalez 6. DeWayne Wise 5. D'Angelo Jimenez 4. Joe Borchard 3. Billy Koch 2. Danny Wright 1. Timo Perez Thanks for reminding me of that one. I believe I was the only one that was excited when we snagged him. He makes me think fondly of the days of Jamie Burke.
December 16, 200916 yr QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 03:25 PM) blasphemy yeah what's with that s***
December 16, 200916 yr kelly dransfeldt, wilson valdez, armando rios, rick white, brett prinz, ryan bukvich,
December 16, 200916 yr I forgot about Rick White. GOD he was frustrating! What a gas can! Almost the entire 2003 bullpen was garbage really. White, Koch, Glover.. yuck. Edited December 16, 200916 yr by Cowch
December 16, 200916 yr QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 04:15 PM) Thanks for reminding me of that one. I believe I was the only one that was excited when we snagged him. He makes me think fondly of the days of Jamie Burke. No you weren't. In fact.. I had a Ben Davis fan club that had ALOT of members (alot of smart posters, people here wouldn't believe) on it back in the day. (me and aboz had the two biggest fan clubs, though his Buehrle club was alot smarter than my club was though alot of his members were with me too) I was a huge Ben Davis fan and so were others in the fan club. I still have the PM's back in 2004 with posters who wanted to join FYI. I also had a crazy cool BD sig Goldy made for me back then (though I can't find it.. ) Edited December 16, 200916 yr by SoxAce
December 16, 200916 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 04:20 PM) yeah what's with that s*** Sorry I just didn't like the guy. All he did was swing for the fences and struck out 100 times. He hit for a terrible average and was poor fundamentally. A .240 hitter that hits 25 homers doesn't impress me at all. Plus he made a ton of errors.
December 16, 200916 yr QUOTE (docsox24 @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 04:48 PM) Sorry I just didn't like the guy. All he did was swing for the fences and struck out 100 times. He hit for a terrible average and was poor fundamentally. A .240 hitter that hits 25 homers doesn't impress me at all. Plus he made a ton of errors. but........
December 16, 200916 yr My unique mix of guys who sucked and the ones I just don't like: 1. Darin Erstad 2. Andy Gonzalez 3. Jose Paniagua 4. Rick White 5. Julio Ramirez 6. Felix Diaz 7. Jon Rauch 8. Jerry Owens 9. Dewon Day 10. Horacio Ramirez Honorable mention: Tanyon Sturtze Jesus Pena Alan Embree Josh Paul Royce Clayton Todd Ritchie D'Angelo Jimenez Roberto Alomar Armando Rios Arnie Munoz Mike Jackson Wilson Valdez Pedro Lopez Andy Sisco Gustavo Molina Luis Terrero Horacio Ramirez Bartolo Colon Jimmy Gobble
December 16, 200916 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 03:32 PM) Andy Gonzalez: .185/.280/.249/.529, 39 OPS+ Brent Lillibridge: .158/.273/.179/.452, 21 OPS+ If Lillibridge hadn't had only half the at bats that Andy Gonzalez did, then he could be in better contention for worst player, but really he was only up at the plate for a little more 100 times, whereas Gonzalez had pretty much gotten a fulltime role as a utility player in the latter half and ended with over double the ABs that Lilly had. Here's the game that made me hate him forever. Check out the 3rd inning.
December 16, 200916 yr I always cut Andy Gonzalez a little slack cuz of that 20 pitch AB against Zumaya. It was one of his first PA and I thought, "Man if this guy can battle with the good Zumaya, we might have something here". Turned out to be a can a old turds, but whatever. I hated the man Alan Embree, everything about him; oh yea and his pitching sucked too. I took everything he did quite personally.
December 17, 200916 yr mike jackson. anyone on base when he came into the game was guaranteed to score
December 17, 200916 yr QUOTE (lord chas @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 05:41 PM) mike jackson. anyone on base when he came into the game was guaranteed to score You got that right. I hated that guy!
December 17, 200916 yr Ben Davis is a reminder of how many guys flop in baseball. Wasn't he another first rounder? Wow he stunk. Like BA, he looked like a can't miss player; yet stunk. Edited December 17, 200916 yr by greg775
December 17, 200916 yr Its so hard to pick the worst, but I have several more than 10 who deserve a mention: McKay Christensen Andy Gonzalez Ken Hill Jack Egbert Wes Whisler Arnie Munoz Armando Rios Todd Ritchie Julio Ramirez Jeff Bajenaro Josh Stewart Dewon Day Mike Myers Jose Paniagua Brent Lillibridge Some pretty bad players right there. I would have put Toby Hall on the list, but I like guys who make shaving cream pies. Edited December 17, 200916 yr by Dick Allen
December 17, 200916 yr QUOTE (longshot7 @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 07:30 PM) Crap - I don't even remember Andy Gonzalez. When was he on the team? 2007
December 17, 200916 yr Looking over everyone's list, I would like tos ay this about Billy Botch. I can not remember anyone who faced up to dis suckyness with more character and professionalism. As his career went down the s***ter, he didn't hide, he accepted responsibility and was brutally honest at times. Later he started beating up neighbors, but I have to say of all the names mentioned, he's the one I have some empathy and respect for.
December 17, 200916 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 07:40 PM) Looking over everyone's list, I would like tos ay this about Billy Botch. I can not remember anyone who faced up to dis suckyness with more character and professionalism. As his career went down the s***ter, he didn't hide, he accepted responsibility and was brutally honest at times. Later he started beating up neighbors, but I have to say of all the names mentioned, he's the one I have some empathy and respect for. i always felt sick to my stomache when he came into a game lol...didnt jose paniagua only play one game with the sox..facing the twins and he stuck his middle finger at the ump, or am i wrong? cant remember
December 17, 200916 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 02:48 PM) Paniagua really packed a lot into that third of an inning, didn't he? I believe numerous Twins players admitted that in that game, the inning he pitched, really swung the momentum their way that season and they ended up winning the division. Anyway... not in any order. Jose Paniagua Rick White Todd Ritchie Brent Lillibridge Darin Erstad Andy Gonzalez Joe Borchard Mike MacDougal Timo Perez DeAngelo Jimenez
December 17, 200916 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 07:15 PM) Ben Davis is a reminder of how many guys flop in baseball. Wasn't he another first rounder? Wow he stunk. Like BA, he looked like a can't miss player; yet stunk. Second OVERALL pick in the draft.
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