Last year, he started doing that a bit more. He actually hit some soft liners and ground balls to the far left side, on occasion, as I recall. He even attempted a bunt that direction once.

 

His spray chart over the years has been interesting. If he hits the ball on the ground he pulls it like crazy. If he hits it in the air its more gap to gap leaning towards left center.

 

 

Just sign him back already, he even wants to come back. Come on Kenny...

See, for some reason, the idea of being left with just Vizquel and Kotsay as reserve infielders frightens me.

I'm not sure if it frightens me more or less than having Jones/Kotsay as out DH though....

 

Let's just hope that Ozzie and Kenny are really j/k with this Jones/Kotsay thing...

 

The idea of Kotsay getting 400 at bats or 300 at bats or being considered as a DH really frightens me. I don't want another Erstad situation.

Just sign him back already, he even wants to come back. Come on Kenny...

 

I don't understand what the problem is, he's old, past his prime, and not a full-time player at this point in his career. He totally fits the mold of a white sox free agent this offseason.

Edited January 21, 201016 yr by bmags

I don't understand what the problem is, he's a high OBP, lefty power bat who is willing to sign for cheap and be a platooned DH at this point in his career. He totally fits the mold of a white sox free agent this offseason.

Fixed for ya. He's pretty much perfect for the team's needs right now.

 

Looks like the rotating DH is looking more and more definite by the day..

 

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/...e-in-plans.html

 

http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2010/01...eve_of_sox.html

Looks like the rotating DH is looking more and more definite by the day..

 

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/...e-in-plans.html

 

http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2010/01...eve_of_sox.html

 

Ozzie:

 

''Nobody is a bigger Jim Thome fan than me,'' Guillen said at U.S. Cellular Field. ''But in the meantime, (Thome's departure) gives this ballclub an opportunity to give more people more at-bats and to be flexible in different ways.''

 

Sounds to me like he's basically saying, hey, I can have fun with the lineup as is, and do a lot of things. But he's also not saying, anywhere in there, that we won't have a DH.

 

This is why headline writers drive me nuts. The headline says one thing, his quotes say another.

 

Fixed for ya. He's pretty much perfect for the team's needs right now.

 

see, you took the opportunity to compliment thome, whereas I was using it to criticize KW/ozzie. I like thome and want him on the team.

I can remember when KW talked about Jones and Kotsay as bench players. And now they are part of the DH. Awesome.

Ozzie:

 

 

 

Sounds to me like he's basically saying, hey, I can have fun with the lineup as is, and do a lot of things. But he's also not saying, anywhere in there, that we won't have a DH.

 

This is why headline writers drive me nuts. The headline says one thing, his quotes say another.

 

 

Here is another quote that is more clear on the subject.

“No one except his wife is a bigger fan of Jim Thome than me,’’ Guillen said. “I will be grateful and pleased one day to say that I had an opportunity to manage this man, but this game is changing a little bit. It’s easy for manager when you don’t have a true DH. I can move things around, give guys more playing time. That’s the way it’s going to be.

 

“Fans out there will be looking at this team a little different. They might be saying, ‘Hey, we’re missing something.’ I think we’re going in a different direction, but the right direction. Our team is going to create different things. That’s why things will look weird. People shouldn’t be worried about that. Thome to me is one of the best guys ever to wear the uniform, but DH is changing. Few teams will have a legit DH. Those days are going away.’’

Edited January 21, 201016 yr by southsideirish71

You can enjoy flexibility with the dh when you have players who all can hit. You don't do it with players that all are awful. I mean...does no one ask these questions?

I don't understand why they didn't target DeRosa then. Have a 5 man rotating DH between him, Teahan, Quentin, Pierre and Konerko, that way you're at least getting decent production on the field.

Ozzie:

 

 

 

Sounds to me like he's basically saying, hey, I can have fun with the lineup as is, and do a lot of things. But he's also not saying, anywhere in there, that we won't have a DH.

 

This is why headline writers drive me nuts. The headline says one thing, his quotes say another.

 

Ozzie is driving me crazy, I seriously want to yell at him right now. A rotating DH is fine, but having a rotating DH consisting of Mark Kotsay and Andruw Jones is nowhere near fine. I don't know what's not to get here, Ozzie, it isn't 2004 anymore.

I can remember when KW talked about Jones and Kotsay as bench players. And now they are part of the DH. Awesome.

 

You can tell that Kenny wants to sign a DH, but Ozzie's getting in the way here.

You can tell that Kenny wants to sign a DH, but Ozzie's getting in the way here.

 

KW can sign someone w/o ozzies say

KW can sign someone w/o ozzies say

exactly...and i'm hoping he makes a surprise splash during soxfest

Edited January 21, 201016 yr by daa84

If they don't bring Thome back, whoever is really responsible is an idiot. Even if they win the WS without him, NOT signing him at this point is just stupid. The "flexibility" defense baffles me every time I read it.

Here is another quote that is more clear on the subject.

“Fans out there will be looking at this team a little different. They might be saying, ‘Hey, we’re missing something.’ I think we’re going in a different direction, but the right direction. Our team is going to create different things. That’s why things will look weird. People shouldn’t be worried about that. Thome to me is one of the best guys ever to wear the uniform, but DH is changing. Few teams will have a legit DH. Those days are going away.’’

 

Really Ozzie? Jason Kubel, from your favorite Twins team, DH'ed in 80 games; Joe Mauer DH'ed in 28 games; Justin Morneau DH'ed in 12 games. Why? Because they are GOOD.

 

You want to DH Andruw Jones, Mark Kotsay, Omar Vizquel, and maybe giving an outfielder a rest (the only one who should ever be DH'ed in the first place is Quentin).

 

It's like Ozzie has been given boxing gloves and now he wants to go play basketball with them on.

Anyone have any pictures of Ozzie putting Beckham in an electrical closet last season? That might be our only hope of having an actual DH in 2010. What's even more frustrating is news that the Cubs are about to sign Gomes for a few mil to be their 4th outfielder. He'd be one of our best hitters.

Anyone have any pictures of Ozzie putting Beckham in an electrical closet last season? That might be our only hope of having an actual DH in 2010. What's even more frustrating is news that the Cubs are about to sign Gomes for a few mil to be their 4th outfielder. He'd be one of our best hitters.

 

Which is sad in itself because he really hasn't been that good in his career outside of 2005 and 2009.

What's going to happen when some of these guys go on the DL?

What's going to happen when some of these guys go on the DL?

 

Josh Kroeger and Alejandro De Aza take their place, duh. Oh, and don't forget about Jayson Nix.

What's going to happen when some of these guys go on the DL?

 

You mean Kotsay and Quentin don't seem likely to stay healthy? You make a great point though, and it's pretty ridiculous. We'll probably end up DHing Ramirez and let Omar play SS.

well theres no point in complaining about it anymore,thats just how its going to be i guess. we should atleast see how it works. we cant just asume its not going to. if it doesnt, then we'll just trade for gonzalez. jp lol

Really Ozzie? Jason Kubel, from your favorite Twins team, DH'ed in 80 games; Joe Mauer DH'ed in 28 games; Justin Morneau DH'ed in 12 games. Why? Because they are GOOD.

 

You want to DH Andruw Jones, Mark Kotsay, Omar Vizquel, and maybe giving an outfielder a rest (the only one who should ever be DH'ed in the first place is Quentin).

 

It's like Ozzie has been given boxing gloves and now he wants to go play basketball with them on.