Balta1701 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Nevada schedules their caucuses on Jan. 14, could possibly push Iowa into December. New Hampshire law states that its first-in-the-nation primary must be held at least eight days before every state but Iowa, while Iowa’s state law says its first-in-the-nation caucuses must be held seven days before any other contest. If Nevada sticks with Jan. 14, and those two states follow the letter of the law, Iowa would have to hold its caucuses in December, while New Hampshire, which typically holds its primary on a Tuesday, would go no later than Jan. 3. Those laws haven’t always proven an impediment though; in 2008, Iowa held its caucuses just five days before New Hampshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 09:37 AM) I mean the right who gave her a TV show on their biggest media voice. Here's a poll from May with her a tick behind Romney: http://www.gallup.com/poll/147806/romney-p...field-2012.aspx A poll where she has 15%. Boy that really captures the people doesn't it! Ron Paul is right behind her, why didn't he get the same sort of media attention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Two related but seperate thoughts... 1. Undoubtedly the MSM, and the political left, helped keep Palin more in the forefront. But those effects pale in comparison to the effect she added herself by being such a self-designed character. And damn right there was a part of the GOP who helped her along too. Just watch as we wait for her endorsement, which all the candidates will be slobbering over. 2. This primary and caucus oneupsmanship (is that one word?) is so stupid. This could be easily solved. Split the states into, say, 8 primary dates. One every three weeks or so, from January through June. Which states fall into which wave is a rotation that changes each cycle. for the first year, give the historically first states (IA, NH, NV, FL, and a couple others) the January wave in the first year, then that "team" of states moves back to the Feb primary the next cycle, then March, etc. There is no need for all this absurdity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 10:10 AM) They have spent the last four years following her around like a puppy because "she could be President", when there was never a reality of that happening. Singlehandedly they kept her as relevant, just so they could use her as a threat over what could happen. It was purely a fear tactic. Must have been the left wing conspiracy that bought her a campaign bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 10:55 AM) A poll where she has 15%. Boy that really captures the people doesn't it! Ron Paul is right behind her, why didn't he get the same sort of media attention? Rick Perry is at 16%. If he's top tier, I would think 15% puts her right in the thick of it. The 20 point deficit in a general election makes her a lot less serious of a candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 09:57 AM) Two related but seperate thoughts... 1. Undoubtedly the MSM, and the political left, helped keep Palin more in the forefront. But those effects pale in comparison to the effect she added herself by being such a self-designed character. And damn right there was a part of the GOP who helped her along too. Just watch as we wait for her endorsement, which all the candidates will be slobbering over. 2. This primary and caucus oneupsmanship (is that one word?) is so stupid. This could be easily solved. Split the states into, say, 8 primary dates. One every three weeks or so, from January through June. Which states fall into which wave is a rotation that changes each cycle. for the first year, give the historically first states (IA, NH, NV, FL, and a couple others) the January wave in the first year, then that "team" of states moves back to the Feb primary the next cycle, then March, etc. There is no need for all this absurdity. It doesn't matter what kind of character she is, if no one pays attention, she goes away. It happens to Ron Paul every four years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Fox News gave her her own show. As did Discovery Channel. Are they part of the left-wing hate machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 10:04 AM) It doesn't matter what kind of character she is, if no one pays attention, she goes away. It happens to Ron Paul every four years. Exactly. So why does the right keep doing that? The GOP put her up on a pedestal, thus creating the monster. She then jumped off from that point and kept it going with her books, bus tours, etc. Seriously, it is bizarre to me you think she is a creation of the left. That simply makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 10:57 AM) 2. This primary and caucus oneupsmanship (is that one word?) is so stupid. This could be easily solved. Split the states into, say, 8 primary dates. One every three weeks or so, from January through June. Which states fall into which wave is a rotation that changes each cycle. for the first year, give the historically first states (IA, NH, NV, FL, and a couple others) the January wave in the first year, then that "team" of states moves back to the Feb primary the next cycle, then March, etc. There is no need for all this absurdity. Any system you can possibly imagine or propose would work better than this stupid mess where 2 totally unrepresentative states are given inordinate power for no obviously good reason. As long as both parties and the media are willing to accept that mistake, then there will be other states trying to leapfrog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 10:11 AM) Any system you can possibly imagine or propose would work better than this stupid mess where 2 totally unrepresentative states are given inordinate power for no obviously good reason. As long as both parties and the media are willing to accept that mistake, then there will be other states trying to leapfrog. Hell gets colder, as I agree with you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandy125 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 11:41 AM) Hell gets colder, as I agree with you here. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 10:11 AM) Any system you can possibly imagine or propose would work better than this stupid mess where 2 totally unrepresentative states are given inordinate power for no obviously good reason. As long as both parties and the media are willing to accept that mistake, then there will be other states trying to leapfrog. Haters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 09:49 AM) Nevada schedules their caucuses on Jan. 14, could possibly push Iowa into December. they need to change the primary process. maybe have a revolving schedule, or do them all at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 07:40 PM) they need to change the primary process. maybe have a revolving schedule, or do them all at once. Nothing else you can come up with would be worse than what we have right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 09:11 AM) Singlehandedly? Yeah the right never propped her up as a potential 2012 candidate. LOL They didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Her personal PR spokesman Gretta Van Sustrenn is a liebral traitor who works for left-wing media mogul Roger Ailes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 QUOTE (vandy125 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 01:50 PM) Haters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Anyone watch last night's debate? Caught parts of it. Man is Perry terrible, that guy is just going to continue plummeting. While I think Herman Cain is completely out of his league, I wonder if his 9-9-9 stuff might keep him in the race for a while. Romney has really solidifed himself as the guy to beat, again. I don't see anyone in this field having much of a chance to beat him, unless a bunch of people drop out and the far-right can prop up one, ultra-conservative candidate against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 12, 2011 -> 08:44 AM) Anyone watch last night's debate? Caught parts of it. Man is Perry terrible, that guy is just going to continue plummeting. While I think Herman Cain is completely out of his league, I wonder if his 9-9-9 stuff might keep him in the race for a while. Romney has really solidifed himself as the guy to beat, again. I don't see anyone in this field having much of a chance to beat him, unless a bunch of people drop out and the far-right can prop up one, ultra-conservative candidate against him. Perry needs to get away from debates and get on the stump, that is where he really shines. Plus as soon as the TV ads start in the primary states, he'll rebound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 12, 2011 -> 08:44 AM) Anyone watch last night's debate? Caught parts of it. Man is Perry terrible, that guy is just going to continue plummeting. While I think Herman Cain is completely out of his league, I wonder if his 9-9-9 stuff might keep him in the race for a while. Romney has really solidifed himself as the guy to beat, again. I don't see anyone in this field having much of a chance to beat him, unless a bunch of people drop out and the far-right can prop up one, ultra-conservative candidate against him. Romney is definitely the guy to beat. He can close it out soon if he plays his cards right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Herman Cain now with a >10 point lead in national polling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 12, 2011 -> 06:47 PM) Herman Cain now with a >10 point lead in national polling. the WSJ has Cain ahead of Romney by 4%. He's +11 on a fast sinking Perry. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...2855836292.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Does anyone here think Cain actually has staying power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2011 -> 08:18 PM) Does anyone here think Cain actually has staying power? No, his ideas I think intrigue people, but they will get exposed fairly soon imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 The question is, will the Republicans try and buy him on the 9-9-9 plan. If you make it absurd hes probably dead in the water, but if you make it seem at all legitimate, its catchy and in a crowded field its something people will remember. I dont think hed do well in a national election, he is not polished enough. Democrats may be apathetic to a Romney, but Cain is going to rile people up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2011 -> 08:18 PM) Does anyone here think Cain actually has staying power? He has some, but not enough to beat Romney. Unless Gingrich gets some big momentum, Cain should finish second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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