The Jackson move doesnt look to be a flip at this point. That would mean the Sox would have a rotation of: Danks, Floyd, Peavy, MB and Jackson next year.

 

That just seems like way to much salary for pitching. Floyd, Peavy and MB are locked up long term. If Jackson isnt moving, that would leave Danks (who hasnt signed an extension).

 

If you could get an offensive beast and a solid pitcher for him, would you do it?

 

I just am unsure how else the Sox are going to make a big move.

Bowden tweets gone! Did he say too much?

Bowden tweets gone! Did he say too much?

 

 

doesnt he always?

Bowden tweets gone! Did he say too much?

I was thinking that as well.

just curious, what were Jacksons numbers vs Minnesota while with Detroit?

ERA near 6, not that it means anything.

I like this Jackson trade. He's got great stuff and he's 26. He's not as bad as his ERA indicates. 4.27 FIP, .318 BABIP. His fly ball rate is only 30%. People overrated Hudson on this board, he was a no. 3 starter-at best.

 

Ok and what is Jackson? a number 4 starter? and he costs about $8M more per year.

Let's bring up another name.

 

Daniel Cortes, or we can add Tyler Lumsden in for good measure.

 

I remember when he was supposed to be around a Top 45-55 prospect in all of MILB. Hudson never came close to that level with most talent evaluators, let's be honest.

You're trying to argue that KW does a good job of pitching evaluation by bringing up the trade for Mike Macdougal?

Yeah, I'm not pissed because I was in love with Hudson. I'm pissed because we're paying 8 million for a small upgrade.

just curious, what were Jacksons numbers vs Minnesota while with Detroit?

 

0-1 5.84 ERA in 2 starts.

Anyone else getting occasional "Internal Server Error" messages?

you missed something

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7412

 

OK, Chris Young isn't a pitcher that was in our system, drafted by us! (I'll be waiting on the link from someone we drafted in the 27th round in 1982 or something)

People can say that Hudson is overrated all they want but the point is that this is an extreme over pay no matter how the f*** you look at it and there's absolutely no denying that.

 

This trade blows.

 

This board is full of hypocrites. Everybody (including me) wanted Javy Vazquez decapitated two years ago. Now we get his clone and it's a great move.

Anyone else getting occasional "Internal Server Error" messages?

 

Yup, server overload.

This board is full of hypocrites. Everybody (including me) wanted Javy Vazquez decapitated two years ago. Now we get his clone and it's a great move.

 

I always thought Peavy was the white Javy Vazquez.

Anybody wanna fume about this trade in the chat? Might be a good time to use it.

People can say that Hudson is overrated all they want but the point is that this is an extreme over pay no matter how the f*** you look at it and there's absolutely no denying that.

 

This trade blows.

 

Edwin Jackson has career a 1.51 WHIP in over 800 IP. I'd say that he's the overrated one.

 

And even if Hudson is overrated, Jackson won't be filling our need for a cheap back-of-the-rotation pitcher for the next 3+ years.

 

Yup, server overload.

ah ok. Guess this is a little more popular than the moments leading up to the James announcement.

i love how ESPN has an article on how Boston is a boring team on the front page rather than anything on the trade deadline. Top Notch

People can say that Hudson is overrated all they want but the point is that this is an extreme over pay no matter how the f*** you look at it and there's absolutely no denying that.

 

This trade blows.

 

Edwin Jackson has career a 1.51 WHIP in over 800 IP. I'd say that he's the overrated one.

 

And even if Hudson is overrated, Jackson won't be filling our need for a cheap back-of-the-rotation pitcher for the next 3+ years.

 

People can say that Hudson is overrated all they want but the point is that this is an extreme over pay no matter how the f*** you look at it and there's absolutely no denying that.

 

This trade blows.

 

Edwin Jackson has career a 1.51 WHIP in over 800 IP. I'd say that he's the overrated one.

 

And even if Hudson is overrated, Jackson won't be filling our need for a cheap back-of-the-rotation pitcher for the next 3+ years.

 

Jackson isn't a great move.

 

If he stays, it does give us a MUCH better chance at reaching the post-season, and it adds one more pitcher in depth that could actually start a playoff game...as great as Freddy has been, I'm assuming nobody wants him starting Game 4 in NY or Tampa Bay.

Jackson isn't a great move.

 

If he stays, it does give us a MUCH better chance at reaching the post-season, and it adds one more pitcher in depth that could actually start a playoff game...as great as Freddy has been, I'm assuming nobody wants him starting Game 4 in NY or Tampa Bay.

And at this point nobody wants Edwin Jackson starting that game either.

I like this Jackson trade. He's got great stuff and he's 26. He's not as bad as his ERA indicates. 4.27 FIP, .318 BABIP. His fly ball rate is only 30%. People overrated Hudson on this board, he was a no. 3 starter-at best.

 

No way! No one on SoxTalk overrates our prospects. Hudson was going to easily be the next big thing, obviously.

 

But yes, I DO think we overpaid, but not the blasphemous amount most here do.

You really f***ed us on this one, Peavy.

i love how ESPN has an article on how Boston is a boring team on the front page rather than anything on the trade deadline. Top Notch

 

What else would ESPN focus on, they are an extension of NESN. Thank God for MLB Network.