southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 02:39 PM) Derek Jeter has won the AL shortstop cuteness award Gold Glove at shortstop. The sad part is that it is absolutely no surprise to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 02:42 PM) 11/9/10: The date the GG award officially died for me. This award needs to be motherf***ing abolished ASAP. It's become beyond despicable. Less this, more this... QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 02:49 PM) Once Palmeiro won it in 1999 with 28 games played at 1B, I pretty much stopped caring about which undeserving players won it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 02:50 PM) The sad part is that it is absolutely no surprise to me. They couldn't even be original. May as well have given it to Yuniesky Betancourt. There would've at least been a comedy aspect to it. Jeter is just plain disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 02:51 PM) Less this, more this... 1999 was indeed pathetic. But you would figure in this day in age of advanced defensive metrics that s*** like this still wouldn't be happening. These old, crusty baseball farts refuse to recognize the game has evolved. I can't wait until Sabathia gets the CY over Felix. -13 defensive runs saved, .778 RZR (that's not good) and a UZR of -4.7. I can't wait until fangraphs and other legitimate writers (Passan) say their piece on this fiasco. Edited November 9, 2010 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 03:55 PM) 1999 was indeed pathetic. But you would figure in this day in age of advanced defensive metrics that s*** like this still wouldn't be happening. These old, crusty baseball farts refuse to recognize the game has evolved. I can't wait until Sabathia gets the CY over Felix. Who would have won based on advanced stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 03:04 PM) Who would have won based on advanced stats? Green? Um, Ramirez. I would've been fine with Cliff Pennington. Jeter? Again? No. Unacceptable. U don't even need advanced stats to see Jeter is below average. The Yankees are on f***ing TV 4389432743274341 times a year. How do these fools not see this? A saving grace is that Yankee fans don't ride the short bus: http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php/1...ld-Glove-Awards Edited November 9, 2010 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Jeter winning is bad. But congrats go MB! Two in a row! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baines3 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Congrats Mark Buehrle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooch Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 1. MB deserved it, even though he would have won it if he didn't. He is basically guaranteed the GG for the next few years based on the Buehrle meter play and winning it 2 times in a row. 2. They should base certain awards like this one on pure defensive statistics. Its not perfect, but its better than letting these idiots vote completely wrong year after year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 The worst part about this is that Jeter didn't even earn it with his bat this year. Hopefully Jeter embarasses himself offensively next year and is forced to retire, because this is an absolute joke. What I would suggest everyone here does is to email one writer who votes for these awards probably once a week or until they respond, and ask them why they voted for Jeter and didn't vote for anyone else, because quite frankly this is hogwash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I still think the advanced defensive metrics, while way better than what we had before, have their weaknesses. I think certain positions, particularly C, 1B and P, they just don't work as well as they do for the other positions. Not enough balancing of factors. Also, the variation in some players from year to year seems, at times, to swing too widely to reflect reality. Still, a guy with the numbers Jeter put up as noted above, clearly, should not a GG winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 03:06 PM) A saving grace is that Yankee fans don't ride the short bus: http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php/1...ld-Glove-Awards Thanks for posting that, good stuff. My favorite: If Jeter is getting votes, it makes me wonder how Tex beat out Rafael Palmeiro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Sox Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Rob Neyer giving Alexei some love: http://twitter.com/robneyer/status/2103562918166528 For the record (since I didn't mention this in the blog), my Gold Glove choice is Alexei Ramirez, with due respect to Pennington and Andrus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Sox Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Check out the front page of baseball reference. Good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 This award is seriously a disgrace to baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 04:06 PM) A saving grace is that Yankee fans don't ride the short bus: http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php/1...ld-Glove-Awards If Jeter is getting votes, it makes me wonder how Tex beat out Rafael Palmeiro. edit: doh someone already posted that. Better comment: No disrespect to DJ, but Chicago White Sox SS Alexei Ramirez, despite having 20 errors and a .974 fielding percentage, should've gotten it. Alexei Ramirez's RF is 4.89, UZR is +10.8 and a UZR/150 is 10.1. Edited November 9, 2010 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Yankee's fans giving Lexi love. Neyer giving love. Fielding bible love. Hell, even ESPN mentioned how Alexei should have probably got it on that link. This is the biggest farce award in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 06:04 PM) This is the biggest farce award in baseball. Fo sho! That said, I'm glad Buehrle got it. Sometimes they get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Awesome. This was pretty much written in stone after the first game, but still awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 05:06 PM) Green? Um, Ramirez. I would've been fine with Cliff Pennington. Jeter? Again? No. Unacceptable. U don't even need advanced stats to see Jeter is below average. The Yankees are on f***ing TV 4389432743274341 times a year. How do these fools not see this? A saving grace is that Yankee fans don't ride the short bus: http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php/1...ld-Glove-Awards Hold your horses on that part: # CountryClub November 9th, 2010 at 4:15 pm RiverAveBlues RT @iracane: There are not enough Gold Gloves in the world to make up for the egregious fact that Jeter has never won an MVP award http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2010/11/09/jete...-glove-winners/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 And Franklin Gutierrez finally gets one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Alexei robbed by East Coast Bias machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 06:10 PM) Fo sho! That said, I'm glad Buehrle got it. Sometimes they get it right. Aside from Jeter, they are far less atrocious this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 10, 2010 -> 01:11 AM) Aside from Jeter, they are far less atrocious this year. Was the right side of the Yankee infield really THAT good on defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 (edited) More Jeter/SS analysis. This time from Baseball Reference. Edited November 10, 2010 by BigSqwert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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