July 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 12:12 PM) Several teams with worse records are playing better baseball now. Oakland, KC, Minny, Marlins, Pads. Don't the sox have one of the best records in all of baseball since May 10th or so?
July 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 02:42 PM) Don't the sox have one of the best records in all of baseball since May 10th or so? Far from since they've been winning a majority of series. Since this is a game of streak, the Sox are due for one of those losing streaks.
July 8, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 03:26 PM) 32-24 since May 6th. And that includes the three straight L's.
July 8, 201114 yr Sox record after their June 7th game: 30-33, 6 GB Sox record after their July 7th game: 43-46, 5.5 GB You can really cherry pick anyway you want.
July 9, 201114 yr I don't get why we've taken no precautions with Peavy the last three weeks. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,4275599.story
July 10, 201114 yr Sorry if this has already been posted... Thoughts and/or prayers for Willie... Link
July 10, 201114 yr QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 10:08 PM) Sorry if this has already been posted... Thoughts and/or prayers for Willie... Link Sad news. Prayers for Willie and his family.
July 10, 201114 yr Rogney Second half rotation: Floyd, Jackson, Peavy. Then Buehrle, Humber, Danks if all goes well #whitesox
July 10, 201114 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 12:32 PM) So we line it up so our three worst starters face the Tigers? This has to be matchups based, right?
July 11, 201114 yr Peavy's arm is like falling off, thanks to the fact that we didn't give him extended rest after he pitched in relief (which was assinine). Now we aren't going to push him to the very end to give him extended rest? Why? Why? Why?
July 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 12:51 AM) Peavy's arm is like falling off, thanks to the fact that we didn't give him extended rest after he pitched in relief (which was assinine). Now we aren't going to push him to the very end to give him extended rest? Why? Why? Why? This is just crazy, as I said in the game thread, we treated Peavy like Terry Mulholland his rubber arm used to be treated. Just put his ass on the DL, it's not like he's been effective anyways. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,6203656.story
July 11, 201114 yr I wish they'd DL Dunn, Peavy, Rios, Teahen, Pierre for starters and replace them with anybody. I think it'd help the team. Right now all those guys are buzzkill, though Pierre has been the good Juan lately.
July 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 12:35 PM) This has to be matchups based, right? Gavin has been really good against the Tigers in his career. It doesn't make any sense to have him face Verlander though, no matter how well he pitches we'll lose.
July 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 01:51 AM) Peavy's arm is like falling off, thanks to the fact that we didn't give him extended rest after he pitched in relief (which was assinine). Now we aren't going to push him to the very end to give him extended rest? Why? Why? Why? I am thinking it is a loss of control because of the groin injury and not the relief role. He can't extend and push the way he needs to with those legs and lower body
July 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 09:13 PM) I am thinking it is a loss of control because of the groin injury and not the relief role. He can't extend and push the way he needs to with those legs and lower body Going on relatively short rest after a relief appearance may have something to do with that.
July 11, 201114 yr People that are blaming the relief appearance for Peavy's crumminess baffle me. What if somebody pitches in the all star game in relief after pitching Saturday or something. And they come back and suck. I guess there will be those who blame the all star appearance.
July 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (TomPickle @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 09:11 PM) Gavin has been really good against the Tigers in his career. It doesn't make any sense to have him face Verlander though, no matter how well he pitches we'll lose. This is the kind of defeatist attitude the team has with the Twins. "No matter what we do, we'll lose." Why shouldn't we play the best matchup? Just because Verlander has been amazing we should just throw a sacrificial lamb out there "because we can't beat him?" This is why we can't beat the Twins- there is a mentality about it. Like you said- Gavin is really good against the Tigers. So what you're suggesting is take a flop on the Verlander matchup so we can use Gavin on a matchup that is better for us to win? I say we put our best players out there in the matchups against there best players so we can mitigate losses and maximize wins.
July 11, 201114 yr Fish wrap the 1st half on a high note. Now where in the world will LoMo spend the All Star break?!? Hint: I hear it's Windy... Hopefully talking to Jerry about his contract!
July 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (The Baconator @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 04:10 AM) This is the kind of defeatist attitude the team has with the Twins. "No matter what we do, we'll lose." Why shouldn't we play the best matchup? Just because Verlander has been amazing we should just throw a sacrificial lamb out there "because we can't beat him?" This is why we can't beat the Twins- there is a mentality about it. Like you said- Gavin is really good against the Tigers. So what you're suggesting is take a flop on the Verlander matchup so we can use Gavin on a matchup that is better for us to win? I say we put our best players out there in the matchups against there best players so we can mitigate losses and maximize wins. Matchups don't matter with our team. We had Peavy going against some soft tosser I never heard of today and we didn't stand a chance. I agree with you. Just pitch whoever we want to pitch. Sox can lose to anybody.
July 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 10:55 PM) People that are blaming the relief appearance for Peavy's crumminess baffle me. What if somebody pitches in the all star game in relief after pitching Saturday or something. And they come back and suck. I guess there will be those who blame the all star appearance. I agree Greg. At some point people are going to have to accept that he is not a great pitcher anymore and stop making excuses. He, like Jackson, may have a dominant game every so often but the ace potential is gone and an extended rest won't help.
July 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 10:01 AM) I agree Greg. At some point people are going to have to accept that he is not a great pitcher anymore and stop making excuses. He, like Jackson, may have a dominant game every so often but the ace potential is gone and an extended rest won't help. Isn't "just accept that he's not a great pitcher any more" also making excuses?
July 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 08:01 AM) I agree Greg. At some point people are going to have to accept that he is not a great pitcher anymore and stop making excuses. He, like Jackson, may have a dominant game every so often but the ace potential is gone and an extended rest won't help. I'm not going to reach that conclusion until he finishes his contract.
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