Most they should eat is half of Rios salary. To go along with Thornton, I'd say that's a fair deal for Gamel.

Rios has, what, about $33M remaining on his deal? I would think the Sox would be eating around $20-25M of that, right?

 

25 Million? You might as well keep him.

 

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25 Million? You might as well keep him.

 

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Yeah, but assuming that De Aza, Viciedo, Mitchell are his fill-ins for the remainder of his contract, the Sox are still saving money.

25 Million? You might as well keep him.

 

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I agree.

I agree.

 

Third this.

Rios has, what, about $33M remaining on his deal? I would think the Sox would be eating around $20-25M of that, right?

 

With the 2015 buyout, it's closer to $41-42M I believe, including the remainder of this season. I'd guess we'll be coughing up $25M+.

FWIW, some other tweeters with Brewers ties think the rumors are total BS

ANYTHING to ge Rios out of the clubhouse... I think he's just a drag on and off the field and him not being in the organization is best for everyone involved...

The only part of the deal that makes any sense is the Brewers wanting Eduardo Escobar.

With the 2015 buyout, it's closer to $41-42M I believe, including the remainder of this season. I'd guess we'll be coughing up $25M+.

 

Yeah, for some reason I didn't carry a 1. Yeah, I figure its around $42-43M he has left.

Yeah, for some reason I didn't carry a 1. Yeah, I figure its around $42-43M he has left.

 

 

I realize Rios is by far the worst player on our team this year, but a year ago he was one of the best... I don't like the idea of buying high and selling low. There is a possibility of Rios bouncing back next year, hopefully with some extra motivation after this atrocious year, and moving somewhat towards the norm of his career which isn't bad, even though he is still terribly underpaid. The problem with letting Rios go is that we still don't have a CF unless De Aza is the guy. If Rios does have a bounce back year next year and put up decent numbers in line w. his career, an OF of Viciedo, Rios, and Quentin doesn't sound so bad.

I realize Rios is by far the worst player on our team this year, but a year ago he was one of the best... I don't like the idea of buying high and selling low.

buying high?

I realize Rios is by far the worst player on our team this year, but a year ago he was one of the best... I don't like the idea of buying high and selling low. There is a possibility of Rios bouncing back next year, hopefully with some extra motivation after this atrocious year, and moving somewhat towards the norm of his career which isn't bad, even though he is still terribly underpaid. The problem with letting Rios go is that we still don't have a CF unless De Aza is the guy. If Rios does have a bounce back year next year and put up decent numbers in line w. his career, an OF of Viciedo, Rios, and Quentin doesn't sound so bad.

 

What do you mean? We bought very low on him, and are selling very low on him.

Rios "good first half" of 2010 is rather mythical given that he OPS'd over .800 in 1 month all year and it was 1.106

Holy f***! If they pick up Rios's contract, someone owes Kenny a BJ.

Kenny would owe the Brewers a hot carl. I can't see this happening unless JR, who from what I hear has been very pissed off with Rios, just told KW to get rid of him no matter what the cost.

Kenny would owe the Brewers a hot carl. I can't see this happening unless JR, who from what I hear has been very pissed off with Rios, just told KW to get rid of him no matter what the cost.

That would be almost impossible to believe.

Hollowell is a five star basketball recruit. It was a very big story in Indiana, and he got it dead wrong.

It wasnt totally off the wall though. Rumors are rumors.

Rios "good first half" of 2010 is rather mythical given that he OPS'd over .800 in 1 month all year and it was 1.106

 

Roidssssssssss!

That would be almost impossible to believe.

I agree. KW is going to have to send some cash if he ever wants to rid the Sox of that contract. Alex Rios is the on the poster for BUM.

We can't move Rios unless....

 

1) Quentin/Danks/Thornton (possibly 2 of them) are involved

2) We get back a legit CFer as part of the trade...a Rasmus level of player who's fallen out of favor and would still be under club control for 3-4 years.

3) If we give up that level of talent, we shouldn't pay more than $12-15 million of what's left on Rios' deal

4) If you subtract Quentin, you're not going to get enough offense out of Viciedo/DeAza and ??? (Milledge) unless we're getting other players back (CF/pitching/3B)

After this year yeah I'd rather go with Milledge/Alejandro/Viciedo as our of next year than anything involving rios.

Then we better get some offense out of 3B if we're going to roll with that kind of inexperience in the OF.

 

I can't imagine strong season ticket renewals unless there's at least one significant improvement made somewhere coming into 2012.

Then we better get some offense out of 3B if we're going to roll with that kind of inexperience in the OF.

 

I can't imagine strong season ticket renewals unless there's at least one significant improvement made somewhere coming into 2012.

 

Addition by subtraction.

Man I want 3B fixed up for good instead of this "butcher in the field and possible max offense" type of player. Let's just get somebody to man it Kenny, whatever it takes. World Series can be taken this week.

Then we better get some offense out of 3B if we're going to roll with that kind of inexperience in the OF.

 

I can't imagine strong season ticket renewals unless there's at least one significant improvement made somewhere coming into 2012.

I think it's time to stop thinking about that and start making baseball moves.