Real Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 01:36 AM) I forgot about longing for Tank cause it's obvious Sox won't let him play in the bigs this year. He'll be a September call up and rarely play. Next year is a different story. They'll let Pierre go without resigning him and it'll be Tank time. Obviously the plan was to keep him in the minors all year. I disagree with it but I got over it cause they wouldn't bring him up. It'll be interesting to see who they sign to leadoff in 2012, Pierre most likely won't be back Leadoff will come from: OF- CQ, Viciedo or Rios traded 3B- Morel experiment ends 2B- Beckham traded My guess, one of either CQ or Beckham is dealt in the offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Trading Beckham at his lowest possible value just doesn't make any sense. Rios could be the leadoff hitter. Or Lillibridge/DeAza. Ramirez would be the 3rd best option. Go with Door #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 04:24 AM) Trading Beckham at his lowest possible value just doesn't make any sense. Rios could be the leadoff hitter. Or Lillibridge/DeAza. Ramirez would be the 3rd best option. Go with Door #2. None of those 'Doors' are an adequate option, A leadoff hitter is supposed to be able to get on base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) August 10th: 0 for 3 with a BB and a R Damned thumb. Edit: We need a shot in the arm. Guuurr. Edited August 11, 2011 by hi8is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 09:24 AM) Trading Beckham at his lowest possible value just doesn't make any sense. Rios could be the leadoff hitter. Or Lillibridge/DeAza. Ramirez would be the 3rd best option. Go with Door #2. Rios would be a disaster at leadoff as he has been everywhere else. Lilly is a sub. He is not a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Okay guys, who do you want to trade or "dump" to clear enough salary to sign a leadoff hitter? Someone will have to go. Danks? Not sign Buehrle? Quentin? Floyd? Thornton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 01:17 AM) Okay guys, who do you want to trade or "dump" to clear enough salary to sign a leadoff hitter? Someone will have to go. Danks? Not sign Buehrle? Quentin? Floyd? Thornton? They will probably get rid of Quentin and find a speedy OF to be the leadoff guy in place of Pierre. Don't see the infield changing with Paulie, Becks, Alexei, and Morel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 02:17 AM) Okay guys, who do you want to trade or "dump" to clear enough salary to sign a leadoff hitter? Someone will have to go. Danks? Not sign Buehrle? Quentin? Floyd? Thornton? of those guys, easily thornton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 03:17 AM) Okay guys, who do you want to trade or "dump" to clear enough salary to sign a leadoff hitter? Someone will have to go. Danks? Not sign Buehrle? Quentin? Floyd? Thornton? What position does this hypothetical leadoff hitter play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I really think they need to DL Dunn and bring up Viciedo and then Dunn can watch from the bench in Sepetemeber and stay home for the playoffs. That was a big game last night and he continues to simply be an embarassment of epic proportion. He is f***ing Julio Ramirez without the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 10:50 AM) I really think they need to DL Dunn and bring up Viciedo and then Dunn can watch from the bench in Sepetemeber and stay home for the playoffs. That was a big game last night and he continues to simply be an embarassment of epic proportion. He is f***ing Julio Ramirez without the defense. Dunn isn't hurt. That would make DLing him difficult. I've gotten the impression from the Tribune that there would be an objection to DLing Dunn for a random excuse. Viciedo also appears to still be struggling with his hand. Etiher that or he's in a horrid, hand related slump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Leadoff hitter has to come from LF, it seems. If it's not Lilly/DeAza/Milledge next year...what players are out there on the FA market? Guessing there's not much out there of interest. Moral of Story: Turn your 5 year old into a speedy/slappy leadoff hitter, catcher or LH pitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Dunn's issues with at bats is really getting beyond terrible. I certainly understand the calls to DL him, but we need a valid reason to do that. Plus I don't see Viciedo doing much right now and maybe he is the one that should still be on the DL? Whatever, the non existent Dunn has cost us more than afew games. It is just deplorable. Watching BBTN a couple days ago and the comment was made thatthey didn't know if he could fix his issues. Some debate but seemed top be the consensus that he was too far gone this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 11:18 AM) Leadoff hitter has to come from LF, it seems. If it's not Lilly/DeAza/Milledge next year...what players are out there on the FA market? Guessing there's not much out there of interest. Moral of Story: Turn your 5 year old into a speedy/slappy leadoff hitter, catcher or LH pitcher Here's your current list. Scrolling through the OF options, the only name that popped out to me was Coco Crisp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Milledge is the best bat left in the minors with Viciedo clearly not healthy or just mentally exhausted with not getting recalled and then getting hurt again. Kuhn's just too green. Hard to imagine they could be worse off with Lastings as the DH. There would be even less LH hitters, but who the hell cares at this point about balancing the line-up? It would be nice if we could find a Kipnis in the 2nd round once in a while. 1.000+ OPS can't possibly last, but Jesus, it seems we're being taunted this year by Hudson, Gio, all the Chicago kids like Granderson and Kipnis....can anything besides Santos/Sale and Humber go right this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 09:23 AM) Here's your current list. Scrolling through the OF options, the only name that popped out to me was Coco Crisp. The only other option is Lillibridge moving to 3B and hitting leadoff, with Quentin and Viciedo at the corners. Or trading Beckham and replacing him with a leadoff hitter at 2B. And yes, I know how you feel about Morel. But that's the only other option I can think of off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 03:39 AM) He's not coming until September call-ups. I feel it. That has been the plan it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 09:53 AM) Dunn isn't hurt. That would make DLing him difficult. I've gotten the impression from the Tribune that there would be an objection to DLing Dunn for a random excuse. Viciedo also appears to still be struggling with his hand. Etiher that or he's in a horrid, hand related slump. I am sure healthy players have been put on the DL in the past especially 15 days before rosters expand. He fell over his gym bag and twisted his knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 11:44 AM) I am sure healthy players have been put on the DL in the past especially 15 days before rosters expand. He fell over his gym bag and twisted his knee. I don't think the White Sox are going to be the first team in recent memory to get called out for lying to get a guy onto the Dl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 10:25 AM) Milledge is the best bat left in the minors with Viciedo clearly not healthy or just mentally exhausted with not getting recalled and then getting hurt again. Kuhn's just too green. Hard to imagine they could be worse off with Lastings as the DH. There would be even less LH hitters, but who the hell cares at this point about balancing the line-up? It would be nice if we could find a Kipnis in the 2nd round once in a while. 1.000+ OPS can't possibly last, but Jesus, it seems we're being taunted this year by Hudson, Gio, all the Chicago kids like Granderson and Kipnis....can anything besides Santos/Sale and Humber go right this season? Kipnis, Ackley, Lawrie, Jennings, etc. Young position talent sprouting up everywhere. We don't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 11:11 AM) Kipnis, Ackley, Lawrie, Jennings, etc. Young position talent sprouting up everywhere. We don't do that. Brett Lawrie is the truth. Glad I held him all season in that keeper league of ours... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 11:24 AM) Brett Lawrie is the truth. Glad I held him all season in that keeper league of ours... Indeed he is. The best GM in baseball knew what he was doing. Meanwhile, we get to watch Beckham perform worse than Darwin f***ing Barney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Beckham doesn't have the signs telling him when an offspeed pitch is coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 11:11 AM) Kipnis, Ackley, Lawrie, Jennings, etc. Young position talent sprouting up everywhere. We don't do that. Trout mysteriously disappeared from your list. Got to stick it out with him. 43 ab's is nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 11:58 AM) Trout mysteriously disappeared from your list. Got to stick it out with him. 43 ab's is nothing. He didn't disappear. Like you said, he got sent down. I don't know why. Dumb move if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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