October 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:56 PM) He said the coaches would be someone he could trust, hinted that they'll be younger guys. I'm thinking someone that he played with who has AL ties. Wild guess Wakamatsu, Toronto's bench coach. Pena also a good guess I think they stay with former organizational guys. They are building that team heritage stuff
October 8, 201114 yr Bob Nightengale says it might be Sandberg. @BNightengale Bob Nightengale #mlb The #WhiteSox already pulled of one surprise.Ready for another? Don't be surprised if they turn to #Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg. http://twitter.com/#!/BNightengale/s...59363830018048
October 8, 201114 yr It looks like that Mark Parent might be joining the Sox coaching staff, along with Ryne Sandberg.. According to a few reports..
October 8, 201114 yr You'd think ONE of them might be a guy who Ventura's familiar with from the last 7-8 years living in SoCal. Someone from the Angels, Dodgers, Padres...just a guess.
October 8, 201114 yr I heard Parent and/or Sandberg, but I think they will add someone with MLB managerial experience. I would think it could be Leyva or Fregosi.
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 08:28 PM) You'd think ONE of them might be a guy who Ventura's familiar with from the last 7-8 years living in SoCal. Someone from the Angels, Dodgers, Padres...just a guess. F From all the interviews, it doesn't seem like Robin is really involved in choosing coaches.
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 08:40 PM) F From all the interviews, it doesn't seem like Robin is really involved in choosing coaches. He should have at least ONE guy he's VERY (personally) comfortable working with...like Maddon has Martinez. Obviously, he's probably on good terms with Harold and Cooper, but is that enough? Think if you were named to run a company, wouldn't you bring at least one close and trusted advisor with you instead of letting all of the terms and conditions of your staff be dictated by that future employer?
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:29 PM) He should have at least ONE guy he's VERY (personally) comfortable working with...like Maddon has Martinez. Obviously, he's probably on good terms with Harold and Cooper, but is that enough? Think if you were named to run a company, wouldn't you bring at least one close and trusted advisor with you instead of letting all of the terms and conditions of your staff be dictated by that future employer? The close trusted advisors he's worked with the last 5 years manage high school.
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 09:34 PM) The close trusted advisors he's worked with the last 5 years manage high school. So you're going to be like Greg backing Ozzie...in terms of now being stuck in the "firmly set in your belief in the unlikelihood of Ventura succeeding" camp for the next 2 seasons? UGH. The White Sox have done some HORRIBLE things since I've been following the team in the early 1980's. Despite all of these, I've never wavered in my "fandom" or questioned my choice of favorite team...nor drank myself into a stupor as a result of aforementioned decisions/moves. I hope you can start to look on the bright side and find a few things to be optimistic about (like the bench coach or new hitting coach) or it's going to be a LONG 2-3 years for all of us (picking on JR, pleading for him to sell the team or worse...KW...and eventually Robin). Edited October 8, 201114 yr by caulfield12
October 8, 201114 yr Lets not get histrionic. I think he is just saying Robin doesn't have the coaching background to build "trusted advisors". He might have some old players he respects but as far as people he knows he can work with in this setting, there aren't really any. It's a crapshoot anyways, lets all go get loaded. More fun that way - look at the Brewers.
October 8, 201114 yr So, we got Ventura as manager, Baines at 1st and Coop on pitchers. Everybody else is gone, correct?
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (JPN366 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 11:03 PM) So, we got Ventura as manager, Baines at 1st and Coop on pitchers. Everybody else is gone, correct? Yes.
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (daggins @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 08:59 PM) Lets not get histrionic. I think he is just saying Robin doesn't have the coaching background to build "trusted advisors". He might have some old players he respects but as far as people he knows he can work with in this setting, there aren't really any. It's a crapshoot anyways, lets all go get loaded. More fun that way - look at the Brewers. Fair enough...just thought he was being a bit too cynical before the guy's even gone through a spring training (another weakness for the Guillen regime, which was fundamentals/execution/bunting/throwing to the correct bases, etc., it seemed Ozzie never cared at all about winning or losing in ST and it seemed over time to have an effect on how we started in April). I guess he'll (Robin) have to earn our faith over time. Some will take it on faith, and some will be doubting Thomases. Neither stance is empirically right or wrong, obviously. At this point, I give him (Ventura) credit for being loyal to JR and the Sox family and stepping into the breach. You know he'll do the job to the best of his ability, and always remain dignified and professional. And there will always be a second-guessing crowd you will use it as one more nail in KW's (and by extension, JR's) coffin. Edited October 8, 201114 yr by caulfield12
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (JPN366 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 11:03 PM) So, we got Ventura as manager, Baines at 1st and Coop on pitchers. Everybody else is gone, correct? Nieves and Salas are still around as well.
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 11:07 PM) Fair enough...just thought he was being a bit too cynical before the guy's even gone through a spring training (another weakness for the Guillen regime, which was fundamentals/execution/bunting/throwing to the correct bases, etc., it seemed Ozzie never cared at all about winning or losing in ST and it seemed over time to have an effect on how we started in April). I guess he'll (Robin) have to earn our faith over time. Some will take it on faith, and some will be doubting Thomases. Neither stance is empirically right or wrong, obviously. At this point, I give him (Ventura) credit for being loyal to JR and the Sox family and stepping into the breach. You know he'll do the job to the best of his ability, and always remain dignified and professional. And there will always be a second-guessing crowd you will use it as one more nail in KW's (and by extension, JR's) coffin. I wouldn't paint that all on Ozzie. That's an organization, scouting thing. I consider it a KW trademark.
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 02:03 PM) My guess is Lamont will be the bench coach. I also think McEwing will get the 3rd base coach job and Manto will get the hitting coach job. I'd prefer Laker be the hitting coach, since he's familiar with the young guys, but the Tribune hinted more towards Manto. I wonder if he speaks Spanish, because we're going to need someone to help with the Cubans and other Latin players. That would be neat if Sandberg joined the staff. If anything he might be a good luck charm. Hasn't his last couple minor league teams both won the divisions they are in?
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (Sockin @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 11:40 PM) Nieves and Salas are still around as well. THANK THE LORD!!!!
October 8, 201114 yr What about the Kiss Demon? He's still here, right? Kiss Demon should be the bench coach.
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (IamPabloOzuna @ Oct 8, 2011 -> 02:18 AM) http://www.csnchicago.com/10/07/11/Sox-req...&feedID=621 It's Mark Parent Seriously? With a manager that has no experience at all, we'd hire a bench coach that has no major league coaching history? That's about right.
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 8, 2011 -> 02:56 AM) Seriously? With a manager that has no experience at all, we'd hire a bench coach that has no major league coaching history? That's about right. I agree. Let's hope they are interested in this guy to be 3rd base coach or something.
October 8, 201114 yr Parent as a back up catcher sould have some good knowledge which will help, still they need a veteran coach, but who? Who will be willing to come in and not be the manager and just a young manager
October 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 8, 2011 -> 02:56 AM) Seriously? With a manager that has no experience at all, we'd hire a bench coach that has no major league coaching history? That's about right. Ugh. This is Chicago, right? Not some small market like KC?
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