The Indians are HUGE winners in that deal, IMO. This looks horrible for Arizona, unless Bauer is a ticking time bomb. Gregorious does not have a ton of upside, from what I've read -- more of an average player ceiling.

 

Stubbs and Bauer for Choo. That's an awesome haul for a guy they weren't going to re-sign after this year.

Stubbs and Bauer for Choo. That's an awesome haul for a guy they weren't going to re-sign after this year.

Unreal. I wanted Bauer. Nice trade for the Indians.

So the Dbacks probably aren't gonna trade Upton. So thats three times in a row the Rangers have struck out on a target.

 

Olt for Floyd!!! #RANGERTEARZ

So the Dbacks probably aren't gonna trade Upton. So thats three times in a row the Rangers have struck out on a target.

 

Olt for Floyd!!! #RANGERTEARZ

 

They can still trade Upton. I don't see why they can't.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/diam...stin-upton.html

 

I mean he still could but he's either not going to or he's driving the price up artificially.

I'm bored.

 

List of LH, possibly impact bat, has had health problems (or just missed a decent amount of games, I didn't look in to injuries).....

 

Nick Markakis

Jacoby Ellsbury

Brett Gardner

Adam Lind

Chase Utley

Shin-Soo Choo

Mat Gamel (My guess)

Pedro Alvarez

Jed Lowrie

John Jaso

Jason Kubel

Tyler Colvin

Logan Morrison

 

 

Choo has been traded.

Rangers missing out on Upton and Grienke. A combination of Floyd and Rios is looking good to the Rangers for some GOOD prospects.

Rangers missing out on Upton and Grienke. A combination of Floyd and Rios is looking good to the Rangers for some GOOD prospects.

 

Well that's an interesting idea. Who would take the last OF spot for the Sox? Tekotte? Thompson? Mitchell? Danks?

Well that's an interesting idea. Who would take the last OF spot for the Sox? Tekotte? Thompson? Mitchell? Danks?

 

Bourn? Hamilton? Lol, I doubt it but they are available still. I'm sure the Sox could find someone out there.

 

I THINK Rangers are going to sign Hamilton.

Edited December 12, 201213 yr by justBLAZE

Rangers are going to sign Hamilton.

 

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Bourn? Hamilton? Lol, I doubt it but they are available still. I'm sure the Sox could find someone out there.

 

Sign me up for some Michael Bourn, absolutely.

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I'm predicting, they struck out on everyone available, what do you think is going to happen? I'd be shocked if it didn't.

When is our big move coming?

hey buckets, does that trade mess up white sox plans?

Several here have to eat crow after prematurely calling him a hypocrite...for going to Cleveland after GASP he said he wouldnt mind playing in front of an excited packed house night after night

 

Yes, who would want that.

 

As a (highly skilled) employee in a very well paid but highly volatile job, would you take $240K for 1 year or $120K a year for 2 years?

Glad to see Choo out of the division. Not so happy to see Bauer in it. Can picture him dominating the Sox in the near future.

hey buckets, does that trade mess up white sox plans?

 

I was thinking the same thing. De Aza could have easily been the player the Reds leadoff hitter they were looking for. But I still think the trade has something to do with the Phillies. They still want a corner OF.

I was thinking the same thing. De Aza could have easily been the player the Reds leadoff hitter they were looking for. But I still think the trade has something to do with the Phillies. They still want a corner OF.

 

And get what back from Philly? Tommy Joseph? Sebastian Valle?

And get what back from Philly? Tommy Joseph? Sebastian Valle?

I read where Philly talked about trading Dominic Brown for Alfonso Soriano. I'd take Brown on the Sox. I've been saying Brown +, for Rios.

I read where Philly talked about trading Dominic Brown for Alfonso Soriano. I'd take Brown on the Sox. I've been saying Brown +, for Rios.

 

Brown is a great prospect, but not ready to be inserted in the middle of the lineup.

Could we all please agree that the candidate must fit the profile of a middle of the order, left handed bat?

I'm pretty sure that is what Hahn wants, and that is easy to understand. He probably doesn't want to see Dunn batting anywhere lower than 5TH or 6TH. If the Sox have to hit Dunn 3RD again, they are not going to be very good.

 

Assuming Viciedo is traded for this "mystery" player, and A. J. is not brought back, the lineup should look like this:

 

de Aza

Keppinger

"Mystery" LH Bat

Konerko

Dunn

Rios

"Blah, Blah, Blah," whatever

 

Brown is no where near ready to bat 3RD. I'd love for it to be Hamilton, but I'd settle for someone like Eithier, or the just traded Choo.

Edited December 12, 201213 yr by Lillian

Who else is on that list?

 

Good question. I'd say Howard, A-Rod, Pujols, Werth among others. Carl Crawford would be on that list, but I guess the money-crazy Dodgers proved that wrong.

I still think Hamilton at 4 years/$25 million per makes a ton of sense for us.

 

Trade Rios & Thornton for prospects and we'd only be adding $6.5 million in salary.

 

1. De Aza, CF

2. Keppinger, 3B

3. Hamilton, RF

4. Konerko, 1B

5. Dunn, DH

6. Viciedo, LF

7. Flowers, C

8. Beckham, 2B

9. Ramirez, SS

 

#1 Sale

#2 Peavy

#3 Danks

#4 Floyd

#5 Quintana

 

CL Reed

SU Crain

SU Jones

MR Veal

MR Omogrosso or veteran

MR Leesman or Septimo

LR Axelrod or Santiago (loser starting in AAA)

When is our big move coming?

In a year or two when the minors have developed more and the big contracts on the big league club have ended.

With the report the Yankees have resigned Ichiro (MLBTraderumors), they now have 3 LH outfielders in Ichiro, Gardiner and Granderson. If we're "signing up," for a strategy...I'd like to see Granderson and some salary relief for De Aza. To me, Granderson is a complete player. He's hit for average and power and is a very good center fielder. Last season's average was down because he was a middle-of-the-order guy. Put him in CF flanked by Rios and Viciedo and bat him first.

 

All this, and he's a stellar human being, too...and from Chicago. Several years ago, the winter after he had his September (maybe a little more) cup of coffee with the Tigers, he was a coach at a baseball camp for kids in Libertyville. He took time for each kid, smiled, signed autographs and answered everyone's questions. He came across as totally genuine. I'd love for him to have some very good years with the White Sox.