Got to give Theo credit he took the trash out!

 

He just paid $18 million for a Jeff Soptic type prospect.

He just paid $18 million for a Jeff Soptic type prospect.

Theo also has him out of the clubhouse and off the books, out of site out of mind. Cubs saved some money and the Cubs could care less about the prospect they got back. The deal was never about the return.

Edited July 26, 201312 yr by Soxfest

Theo also has him out of the clubhouse and off the books, out of site out of mind. Cubs saved some money and the Cubs could care less about the prospect they got back.

 

If Hahn traded Dunn, paid 75% of his future salary, and got a C level prospect back, would you give the same congrats?

The house cleaning is complete. Who is even left from the Hendry era? Castro, Samardzija, & Barney?

 

 

Javier Baez, but no Cub fan wants to admit that he's a Hendry draftee. #theoandjedforever

He just paid $18 million for a Jeff Soptic type prospect.

 

 

True but would you rather pay $18 million and get a lottery ticket relief prospect or just pay the full $24 million and have him potentially block someone else from playing through next season? It's fine. It is a sunk cost. Junior Lake isn't that good but he can now go to LF every day until Kris Bryant is ready to play there.

If Hahn traded Dunn, paid 75% of his future salary, and got a C level prospect back, would you give the same congrats?

This about the Cubs not the Sox. Theo came into a bad situation and has cleaned it up nothing more nothing less.

Edited July 26, 201312 yr by Soxfest

This about the Cubs not the Sox. Theo came into a bad situation and has cleaned it up nothing more nothing less.

 

Because Rick Hahn came into a perfect, beautiful situation and has done nothing but f*** it up since that point?

If Hahn traded Dunn, paid 75% of his future salary, and got a C level prospect back, would you give the same congrats?

So that'd be the Sox paying $15 million out of $20 million or so remaining? No.

If Hahn traded Dunn, paid 75% of his future salary, and got a C level prospect back, would you give the same congrats?

 

No, I wouldn't. I don't get the desperation to unload Soriano now. Would have made more sense 2 years ago when he had more years left on his deal.

 

The Soriano deal is terrible. Instead of overpaying for slightly above league average production, they're overpaying for this production for another team. All they have to show for it is a low-end pitching prospect, and Junior Lake.

 

I guess I understand the need to get rid of Soriano, but please don't refer to this as a "win" for the Cubs by any stretch.

Because Rick Hahn came into a perfect, beautiful situation and has done nothing but f*** it up since that point?

 

Exactly. Its a freaking double standard just because of who Theo is, and some weird worship of a team that has sucked for a century+

If Theo held on to Sori until next year's trade deadline, he would have gotten some talent back and the cash savings would have been the same or better.

Ya I think the new regime has done a terrific job so far but this trade isn't part of that. As I said before, I think this deal was made for Soriano and nothing else.

The problem might well have been that Soriano just wouldn't approve trades to many teams, and one finally came along with a bare-bones offer where he would approve it. So, the offer was $7 million and an A baller or paying out his contract.

Just thought I'd point out that it's no cinch that Rizzo will be a better player than Cashner when all is said and done. Not that the Cubs would ever need pitching, of course

Just thought I'd point out that it's no cinch that Rizzo will be a better player than Cashner when all is said and done. Not that the Cubs would ever need pitching, of course

 

I worry about Cashner's ability to stay healthy. I have been hoping that Cashner would end the year with a better WAR than Rizzo.

Just thought I'd point out that it's no cinch that Rizzo will be a better player than Cashner when all is said and done. Not that the Cubs would ever need pitching, of course

 

 

Cashner's not striking out as many people as in the past and that 5.07 ERA away from Petco raises some questions. But I agree that everyone assumed it was a lopsided trade, but Cashner has some talent.

Cashner's not striking out as many people as in the past and that 5.07 ERA away from Petco raises some questions. But I agree that everyone assumed it was a lopsided trade, but Cashner has some talent.

 

I'm looking at FIP, which likes him quite a bit (3.62 entering the day)

The Cubs really own Sergio Romo.

CJ Edwards strikes out first 7 guys he faces in his debut for Cubs minor league team

CJ Edwards strikes out first 7 guys he faces in his debut for Cubs minor league team

 

Were all 7 at-bats against Kris Bryant?

Dick Allen, I guess samardzija is back to being hot garbage again...

Yes he is.

Yes he is.

 

One of the more overrated pitchers in all of baseball

He got slammed today, right? Well, his xFIP in the game was actually 2.90, which is actually an A+ level xFIP. He came into the game with an xFIP of 3.58, which was good enough for 27th overall in baseball. He's now in the top 25.

 

Edited August 8, 201312 yr by hammerhead johnson

He got slammed today, right? Well, his xFIP in the game was actually 2.90, which is actually an A+ level xFIP. He came into the game with an xFIP of 3.58, which was good enough for 27th overall in baseball. He's now in the top 25.

 

 

 

That ranks a close 2nd to the BP Attendance Trophy in terms of overall importance for fans of successful franchises like the Cardinals, Rays and Braves.