So they're going to be contending in 2015 and at the end of 2013 only 1 of those prospects on the list has made AA? The 3 guys in A-ball this year are going to polish off AA and AAA next year and be ready to contribute to the big league roster?

 

I assume that means they're trading at least 3 of those guys then.

 

Bryant and Baez will almost definitely be in the majors by 2015. Personally, I'll be shocked if they don't trade a few of their guys to try and get a top-tiered MLB pitcher.

I think McDaniel has Almora way too high and Baez way too low.

Bryant and Baez will almost definitely be in the majors by 2015. Personally, I'll be shocked if they don't trade a few of their guys to try and get a top-tiered MLB pitcher.

I think McDaniel has Almora way too high and Baez way too low.

 

Being in the majors and producing at a level that makes your team contenders are vastly different. The 2015 idea is with no learning curve for the younger players.

 

They have no young pitching in the pipeline therefore they need to acquire it.

 

Also minor league rankings are worthless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2015 is the year they're looking to start contending from all accounts.

 

They have 4 of the top 21 prospects in baseball according to Kiley McDaniel...ouch

 

http://sbb.scout.com/2/1320072.html

 

The first wave of guys is starting to stagnate. That isn't good if you want to compete in 2 years.

The first wave of guys is starting to stagnate. That isn't good if you want to compete in 2 years.

 

The other consideration is that these guys CAN stagnate, but so long as someone believes they are still a rising star, they will still have value and they can still capitalize on that value.

The other consideration is that these guys CAN stagnate, but so long as someone believes they are still a rising star, they will still have value and they can still capitalize on that value.

But if they want to compete in 2015, the only way they're going to turn that value into performance on the field is to trade most, if not all of these guys.

Shin Soo Choo will fix it, guys

But if they want to compete in 2015, the only way they're going to turn that value into performance on the field is to trade most, if not all of these guys.

 

You are smelling what I am cooking

But if they want to compete in 2015, the only way they're going to turn that value into performance on the field is to trade most, if not all of these guys.

 

Exactly. You need the first wave to be successful, otherwise now you are looking at 2016, at least.

Cubs got Daniel Bard off waivers and Theo waive his other Red Sox project Michael Bowden today.

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Andrew Cashner with the one - hit shutout

Andrew Cashner with the one - hit shutout

Faced the minimum and threw 97 pitches. That trade and the eventual extension of rizzo, if Cashner stays healthy could look really bad for Theo.

Faced the minimum and threw 97 pitches. That trade and the eventual extension of rizzo, if Cashner stays healthy could look really bad for Theo.

 

...but Theo is god!

Faced the minimum and threw 97 pitches. That trade and the eventual extension of rizzo, if Cashner stays healthy could look really bad for Theo.

LOL, that's the kind of post that makes me want to find some of the Rizzo praise posts (and yes, I've joined in San Diego for ridicule on that trade as well).

I still think Rizzo will be fine, but you are right, the results have been much, much better than anticipated.

Faced the minimum and threw 97 pitches. That trade and the eventual extension of rizzo, if Cashner stays healthy could look really bad for Theo.

 

That's a pretty big if.

That's a pretty big if.

 

Sure which is why that trade looked so lopsided toward the cubs, I was one of the bigger dolts saying that the cubs ripped off the Padres because Rizzo was certain to be an all-star. I never thought Cashner would be and stay healthy. If he does, wow does that trade along with moving Archer look like moves that set the cub back further.

 

I understand that Archer was a move that was made in the win now mode and Garza did help them out but it was a move that they are paying for now. Which would be very similar to the Hudson move had he not gotten hurt. Hudson and Sale would be a very formidable front end rotation for a rebuilding team as would Cashner and Archer. Oddly Cashner is pitching well and Hudson is struggling to get healthy.

 

Finally, Daytona winning the A league title made the morning updates on the SCORE but I did not hear about the Barons title...

Cubs are going to win one or two more games this season.

You have to think that Rizzo and Castros regression this season really has to give Theo pause going forward. These two were supposed to be the first cornerstones

You have to think that Rizzo and Castros regression this season really has to give Theo pause going forward. These two were supposed to be the first cornerstones

Rebuilding hardly ever goes smoothly. Even the can't miss usually give you reason to worry.

 

If they want to blame Sveum for that, that would be silly. They may snap back, and the Cubs may change managers, but if that happens and they give the new manager total credit, it would be way off IMO.

Rebuilding hardly ever goes smoothly. Even the can't miss usually give you reason to worry.

If they want to blame Sveum for that, that would be silly. They may snap back, and the Cubs may change managers, but if that happens and they give the new manager total credit, it would be way off IMO.

 

Which is why all this talk about Baez, Bryant and others is way premature. The Cubs may have a great team in a few years because of all these draft picks. Odds are maybe one or two of them will be average to good major league ball players. Time will tell.

It's funny because just last week I was thinking who the next distraction "Savior" will be for the Cubs, and wouldn't you know it Giraddi's (sp?) name is now being thrown around.

 

Shiny object for Cubs fans to focus on.

Cubs attendance went from 2,882,756 in 2012 to 2,642,682, their lowest figure since 1998. They were over 3 million in from 2004 to 2011. Pretty soon they won't even have their attendance trophy to hang their hats on.

The decision on Sveum is coming Monday. It seems to me evaluating the last 3 games of the season is pretty silly. They know what the deal is. You would think if he is coming back they would just say so. The evidence points to a new manager.

The decision on Sveum is coming Monday. It seems to me evaluating the last 3 games of the season is pretty silly. They know what the deal is. You would think if he is coming back they would just say so. The evidence points to a new manager.

Waiting until they can admit whether they've been talking to Girardi

What a joke. What should Sweum be fired for? For not losing enough?