Buehrle>Wood Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 11:53 PM) How do you know Santiago in the rotation is a good thing? He put up a 1.86 ERA last year as a starter. You know, compare that to Axelrod's ERA over 5 last year and again so far this year. This shouldn't even be a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 8 pitches? wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 07:04 PM) 8 pitches? wow. Josh Johnson is a pretty good pitcher turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 07:01 PM) He put up a 1.86 ERA last year as a starter. You know, compare that to Axelrod's ERA over 5 last year and again so far this year. This shouldn't even be a discussion. And the only time he went over 5 innings was the last meaningless series vs Cleveland. Using rhe same criteria Dan Johnson should have been given a $10 million contract to play 1b. He is hitting .150 in AAA I know thhe argument will be he wasn't stretched out, but he gets close to 100 pitches in the 4th inning. Not exactly what you are looking for in a starter. Don't get me wrong, I think Axelrod is smoke an mirrors, I just dont think Santiago is this star in the making many seem to be making him out to be. Edited April 17, 2013 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Axelrod and Gimenez are very close...does seem to be this emerging storyline that Gimenez is doing a better job with pitch selection, although we have no idea with Cooper gone who's doing what exactly. Is it Parent? The individual catchers? Ventura? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Kep with a piss pour flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I have no idea what Jeff is doing at 2B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Alexei! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Nice play AR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Wow, nice catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Keppinger with the arm of Chuck Knoblauch over there on second, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Anorexei sporting his gumby gold tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) s*** defense to nice defense. Edited April 17, 2013 by Paint it Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 07:10 PM) Anorexei sporting his gumby gold tonight. The one token was huge on the chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I dont think much of Axelrod at all, but regardless, he has done ok tonight. And only at 58 pitches through 4 innings, we could use 6 or even 7 innings from him, thanks to Mental Midget Floyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 07:08 PM) Axelrod and Gimenez are very close...does seem to be this emerging storyline that Gimenez is doing a better job with pitch selection, although we have no idea with Cooper gone who's doing what exactly. Is it Parent? The individual catchers? Ventura? Sox catchers call pitches. You will see them get signals from the dugout, they are usually for pitch outs or actually to give a pitcher a sign to throw to first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Only 1 run in 5 innings again..........what new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 12:05 AM) And the only time he went over 5 innings was the last meaningless series vs Cleveland. Using rhe same criteria Dan Johnson should have been given a $10 million contract to play 1b. He is hitting .150 in AAA I know thhe argument will be he wasn't stretched out, but he gets close to 100 pitches in the 4th inning. Not exactly what you are looking for in a starter. Don't get me wrong, I think Axelrod is smoke an mirrors, I just dont think Santiago is this star in the making many seem to be making him out to be. I still don't see an argument against Santiago though. At worst he is inexperienced, which is better than Axelrod being ineffective. Of course he is showing me up to night, but we'll see how it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 IF it is actually our catchers calling the pitches all game, then Tyler Flowers sucks donkey nuts at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 07:15 PM) Only 1 run in 5 innings again..........what new. This is against Josh Johnson though. Even though his ERA was over 11 coming into this game. The guy is a good pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:55 PM) Winning baseball 101. Absolutely. 2 good hitters in the middle can carry a club. Dunn is just awful. Now he would be nice in the 9 hole or something on a good team for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:57 PM) In which the team wins and a better, more capable player takes his place. Yes. How can sports really be this black and white to you? I think you need a new hobby, turn off the TV and watch golf or something. If he really is that much better, he will win the job sooner or later. If failure is enjoyment to you, you are the one who needs a new hobby. Personally I like my team and its player to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Jeff....your a bad 2nd baseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 08:17 PM) Absolutely. 2 good hitters in the middle can carry a club. Dunn is just awful. Now he would be nice in the 9 hole or something on a good team for sure. in the National League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Kep is not a 2b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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