July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:14 PM) I am just hoping Garcia can turn into a slightly lesser version of Carlos Lee. Ultimately, we got a lot lesser than what the Cubs got for Garza, when trading arguably the more talented pitcher. this is highly debatable
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 09:15 PM) I missed it what was bucket alluding to? Jake mentioned that not paying any money for Peavy might pay immediate dividends tomorrow when we make further trades...Bucket seemed to imply that Jake had hit on something there
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:14 PM) Carlos Quentin got pulled from their game tonight. No idea if he's injured or traded. he got injured while being traded...
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:10 PM) I completely agree, and still believe the Rangers desperate move to give up too much for Garza made expectations unrealistic. Unfortunately Peavy got injured or maybe the Rangers would have went after him instead.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 05:16 AM) this is highly debatable Taking out the cash it's not debatable at all.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:16 PM) With Yadier Molina likely going on the DL, maybe the Cards go after Alexei again to boost their offense? They should definitely trade for Flowers as well then. Edited July 31, 201312 yr by Paulstar
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:14 PM) I am just hoping Garcia can turn into a slightly lesser version of Carlos Lee. Ultimately, we got a lot lesser than what the Cubs got for Garza, when trading arguably the more talented pitcher. Mike Olt has bust written all over him with all those Ks. I like our #1 better. Their 2 is nice though.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 04:19 AM) Isn't Olt a busted prospect with concussion problems? Yeah, sounds promising. Olt off to a horrible start for Iowa
July 31, 201312 yr think all this movement in the AL by contenders puts some pressure on Texas to make a deal (please god Rios)
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:19 PM) Taking out the cash it's not debatable at all. You can't just remove $20M from the equation, that's like, a big part of the equation.
July 31, 201312 yr Garcia is such a far superior prospect to anyone in the Rangers deal that it is hard to compare. A year ago, Olt would have made it more interesting
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:19 PM) Isn't Olt a busted prospect with concussion problems? Yeah, sounds promising. CJ Edwards was the centerpiece of that trade.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:14 PM) I am just hoping Garcia can turn into a slightly lesser version of Carlos Lee. Ultimately, we got a lot lesser than what the Cubs got for Garza, when trading arguably the more talented pitcher. Garza was owed peanuts compared to what Peavy had coming the rest of the way. We still got a top prospect in Garcia, shed $20 million and if 1 of the 3 BOS prospects work out in a few years, we will have easily won the deal. Edited July 31, 201312 yr by dmbjeff
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 05:08 AM) Also, I like to think you can add some potential FA signings as part of this deal (Just like in 05 Carlos Lee did not equal only Pods and Vizcaino, but also partially to Pierzynski/Dye/Iguchi). I don't think there was anyway the Sox would have eaten portions of Peavy's contract and also potentially Rios' and/or Ramirez's contracts while also signing an impact player in FA in the offseason. An impact FA makes no sense because this team won't be competitive next year and they need the draft pick they would have to give up.
July 31, 201312 yr Taking out the cash is basically ignoring half the trade. Hahn did fine, and Garcia is an excellent prospect. Boston two years of an excellent starter with injury history for around market rate, a lil below maybe, for basically nothing, so they're the real bandits. Det. got hosed, so far.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:19 PM) Taking out the cash it's not debatable at all. I think Garcia has the highest upside of any player in either deal, but the Cubs definitely got more quality prospects than we did.
July 31, 201312 yr Reed and Ramirez together makes sense for both the Pirates and Cardinals. Adams and Martinez? Glasnow, Kingham, Taillon?
July 31, 201312 yr Wikipedia doesn't f*** around....has Garcia as: Avisail Antonio García (born June 12, 1991) is a Venezuelan professional baseball outfielder for the Chicago White Sox of Major League Baseball.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 04:21 AM) I think Garcia has the highest upside of any player in either deal, but the Cubs definitely got more quality prospects than we did. Grimm and Olt are both AAAA players to me
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:21 PM) An impact FA makes no sense because this team won't be competitive next year and they need the draft pick they would have to give up. Picks in top 15 are protected.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:16 PM) With Yadier Molina likely going on the DL, maybe the Cards go after Alexei again to boost their offense? Pure guess on my part, but I think they add a shortstop and pit the Sox and Angels against each other
July 31, 201312 yr For those who who don't like the trade, Garcia is at or near the top of our prospect list. He should contribute in 2014.
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