Marty34 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Draft the best arm and stash him in the pen. No need for lefties in the pen this year unless they are one of the best 6 or 7 arms they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 06:36 PM) I don't think it makes sense for the Sox to take any righty with their bullpen as it is. Reed, Jones, Lindstrom, and Belisario give 4 of those already. It'd be nice to have at least 1 slot for Petricka or Webb, whoever earns it, and there's a solid chance one of those guys will rapidly out-pitch any Rule 5 pick you slot in there in the spring and the pick would have been a waste. A lefty? Bring it on. I'm just all about adding as much young talent as possible. I'd like to see Webb and Petricka as well, but if they have to pitch 1/2 a season in AAA while Hahn tries to deal 1 of the vet RP's its not the end of the world. Or we could just carry 1 lefty even though that's a little unconventional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 08:48 AM) Ugh, so many bad memories of getting trade raped by Cashman When? Jose Contreras deal was a freaking awesome deal for the Sox. Swisher didn't work out for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 08:32 PM) When? Jose Contreras deal was a freaking awesome deal for the Sox. Swisher didn't work out for us. Haha no s***! Kenny got screwed by Billy and Cashman over the same player. Double penetration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 08:32 PM) When? Jose Contreras deal was a freaking awesome deal for the Sox. Swisher didn't work out for us. I blame Ozzie for the Swisher problem. His dbag attitude seemed to fit in every other clubhouse, except for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Beltran to the Yankees. They really need pitching... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 As others have stated, now that the Yankees have Beltran, I wonder if Gardner is an option for the Sox. If he signed a contract extension would not mind that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 10:28 PM) As others have stated, now that the Yankees have Beltran, I wonder if Gardner is an option for the Sox. If he signed a contract extension would not mind that at all. Isn't Beltran going to DH??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 01:20 AM) Isn't Beltran going to DH??? Soriano is their primary dh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiosx2334 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 rock, any news trading the pitcher you said couple of weeks ago as soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 The Yanks need pitching and have a hole at 2nd. They also have a boat load of catching talent in their system. How about Santiago and Beckham for Gardner and Gary Sanchez, their #1 catching prospect? Of course, it's always buyer beware with the hype that usually accompanies Yankees prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 05:51 AM) The Yanks need pitching and have a hole at 2nd. They also have a boat load of catching talent in their system. How about Santiago and Beckham for Gardner and Gary Sanchez, their #1 catching prospect? Of course, it's always buyer beware with the hype that usually accompanies Yankees prospects. I would LOVE that deal...makes sense for for both clubs. Looks like the Yankees over value Gardner so I doubt this would happen. If If anything; Hahn needs to inquire. This could be a great swap for both clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Hahn will be on the Score at 8:20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 07:58 AM) Hahn will be on the Score at 8:20. Can you summarize what he said on the score please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 08:34 AM) Can you summarize what he said on the score please? They talked about Konerko, which is old news at this point. Same old stuff... Trying to get players that fit into the long term like Abreu and Garcia. Would like to join the fun of making deals, but can't rush it. Pretty generic topics. If I had to guess, a lefty pitcher not named Sale is getting moved this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 If we're dealing Santiago and more then I want Castro. Get someone who is already a finished product. No more unfinished product catchers please. The price difference between Sanchez & Castro is probably going to be worth it, whatever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I'd really like Castro and would easily part with either Santiago or Quintana to get him. He doesn't have to hit as well as he did last year to be really worth it. Have Flowers back him up and you have a really nice catching tandem. Castro would catch a bunch and you let Flowers go against the toughest lefties, where he should have some success. If Houston doesn't think they can compete before Castro hits FA or not until he's about to become a FA, send him over here. The marginal gain at the C position would be astronomical. Having a young lefty bat in the middle of the order for the next several years would make the lineup really quite scary. Imagine having a middle of the lineup is some order including: -Abreu -Avisail -Castro -Viciedo and then, you're looking at guys like Alexei, ADA, and Semien for the top/bottom in the near term. A lot of talent and not very much age among that crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 08:55 AM) I'd really like Castro and would easily part with either Santiago or Quintana to get him. He doesn't have to hit as well as he did last year to be really worth it. Have Flowers back him up and you have a really nice catching tandem. Castro would catch a bunch and you let Flowers go against the toughest lefties, where he should have some success. If Houston doesn't think they can compete before Castro hits FA or not until he's about to become a FA, send him over here. The marginal gain at the C position would be astronomical. Having a young lefty bat in the middle of the order for the next several years would make the lineup really quite scary. Imagine having a middle of the lineup is some order including: -Abreu -Avisail -Castro -Viciedo and then, you're looking at guys like Alexei, ADA, and Semien for the top/bottom in the near term. A lot of talent and not very much age among that crew. I don't think I would trade Quintana for Castro, especially based off Hahn's comments that he's one of 4 that's unreadable. I would focus on building a package centered around Santiago for Castro. That line up looks real good if everything comes to form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 09:01 AM) I don't think I would trade Quintana for Castro, especially based off Hahn's comments that he's one of 4 that's unreadable. I would focus on building a package centered around Santiago for Castro. That line up looks real good if everything comes to form Honestly, I hate trading either guy, but if 2014 is going to be a transition year we're better off moving one of them for a young impact bat and having both Johnson & Rienzo in the rotation. The problem is that Quintana has a lot more value, but is also the guy you'd rather not give up. Building a trade for Castro around Santiago would require another couple of pieces and that's only if they really believe in Santiago's potential. I think this is definitely a trade worth exploring as Castro would be an insane upgrade over the crap we trotted out there last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Didn't the Castro rumors get shot down already? Why would the Astros trade him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 10:13 AM) Honestly, I hate trading either guy, but if 2014 is going to be a transition year we're better off moving one of them for a young impact bat and having both Johnson & Rienzo in the rotation. The problem is that Quintana has a lot more value, but is also the guy you'd rather not give up. Building a trade for Castro around Santiago would require another couple of pieces and that's only if they really believe in Santiago's potential. I think this is definitely a trade worth exploring as Castro would be an insane upgrade over the crap we trotted out there last year. Hit them with Erik Johnson, Addison Reed, and their choice of Beckham or Semien (we build around Semien at 2B if they take Beckham or we keep Beckham and hope for Micah Johnson/other in 2 years if Beckham doesn't take another step forward). They would HAVE to think long and hard about that because that is seriously a haul. I don't believe in Rienzo, I think he's a #5 or a MR, but I really like Johnson and Beck. But if you go with a 4-lefty rotation to start the year, you can use Rienzo as your righty (or better yet sign a FA if you can) and then look for Beck to be ready by the time you trade Danks. You take your chances on finding the last righty in another deal or in house, maybe even as next year's #1. I would love to be able to keep both Q and Hector. Both look extendable, both look very good, both are hard working, over-achiever type players who have made a habit of getting the very best out of their abilities & making strides beyond where their ceilings are supposed to be. As lefties with nice arms, I don't want to part with them because although we're a little different, generally it's the lefties that are the hardest to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Quintana would bring a lot more in return and we'd be selling high on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 11:17 AM) Quintana would bring a lot more in return and we'd be selling high on him. And we'd also be trading away our 2nd best pitcher, weakening our strongest area from the top and pushing those at the bottom up, rather than working from the bottom and keeping what we have on top. But if you made the Castro-for-Quintana deal straight-up that would be a fair trade for both teams. I'd rather send out more pieces and have both players, if at all possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) A couple other Castro trades that I think we could try in order to keep Johnson, Q, Hector: Reed + Beckham/Semien + Beck + Snodgress Nate Jones + M. Johnson + Beck + Snodgress We'd have to trade starting pitching to get Castro for sure, but we can afford to deal a 2B or 2B prospect plus Snodgress who'd be blocked, and you can always trade a reliever for a starting position player of equal or better quality. Edited December 7, 2013 by The Ultimate Champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 10:32 AM) A couple other Castro trades that I think we could try in order to keep Johnson, Q, Hector: Reed + Beckham/Semien + Beck + Snodgress Nate Jones + M. Johnson + Beck + Snodgress We'd have to trade starting pitching to get Castro for sure, but we can afford to deal a 2B or 2B prospect plus Snodgress who'd be blocked, and you can always trade a reliever for a starting position player of equal or better quality. We already gave them Harrel and Humber, haha. Edited December 7, 2013 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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