Soxfest Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:36 PM) Me either, at all. Santiago was a borderline SP to me. Maximize Santiago value in deal while he is wanted win for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:36 PM) Eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:36 PM) There is a report now that the player the Dbacks would get from the Angels would have to pass through the Rule-5 draft on Thursday, which means this deal may not even get finalized for another 2 days. That blows. I hope that doesn't stop Hahn from making other moves now because he has to make sure this one goes through. Â Â I blame te topic change for making us wait even longer for a trade to happen. I too hope we can get Howie somehow as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (scs787 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 02:37 PM) I hope Avi ends up being a middle of the lineup bat. I've been saying this for awhile, and my logic may be off but, I wanna see Lexi hit 2nd behind a guy who can consistently get on base(Eaton looks like he can be that guy). Last 3 years Lexi has hit .304/.346/.439 with runners on, in 749 ABs. I'm thinking Eaton-Lexi-JDA-Dunn-Avi 1-5.  I don't mind that set-up, but I have a feeling that it will be  Eaton (L) Alexei ® Dunn (L) JDA ® Avi ®  Just to keep consistent w/ the L-R-L-R at the top of the order, and I think maybe the hope is that JDA will get Adam Dunn more fastballs to hit, assuming JDA becomes a feared enough hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 Now people are just making stuff up with the Albert Pujols involvement in the deal......rumor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:38 PM) Maximize Santiago value in deal while he is wanted win for the Sox. Â 2nd that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 How many years did the Sox employ Mark Buehrle, and have him start opening day, and pitch him in the playoffs and WS? xFIP had nothing to do with him leaving. Â xFIP predicts future performance, so I'd guess that's something they would consider when resigning someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 08:37 PM) And that's fine, I have no problem with that. They aren't the holy grail either. I think Santiago can certainly improve as a starter and his game will play much better in LA than it did and does here, but to me I think he will ultimately be more of a #3/4 rather than a #2/3. We will see though. I really like Eaton though and think he is going to be a nice addition. Â Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely fine with them trading Hector. I was just hoping for a little bit more in return. Of course, watch everyone overreact tomorrow if the prospect the Sox send in the deal is one of the bigger named guys in the system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) Now people are just making stuff up with the Albert Pujols involvement in the deal......rumor  Why do that to us man!! Any tweets? Killing me if that's true I'd go crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 02:40 PM) Now people are just making stuff up with the Albert Pujols involvement in the deal......rumor  Lol, what? AZ doesn't have 1B open, and Sox don't have 1B or DH open. If that troll was smarter, he would have lied and said Josh Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:41 PM) Why do that to us man!! Any tweets? Killing me if that's true I'd go crazy  From nobody credible....people are just pulling stuff out their butts now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:36 PM) There is a report now that the player the Dbacks would get from the Angels would have to pass through the Rule-5 draft on Thursday, which means this deal may not even get finalized for another 2 days. That blows. I hope that doesn't stop Hahn from making other moves now because he has to make sure this one goes through. Â Sox can probably grab him at three and then trade him back as part of this deal I guess? Â The White Sox got exactly what they needed in Eaton. While Santiago is a good pitcher he was used to get something that the Mitchell's of the world could not become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) I don't mind that set-up, but I have a feeling that it will be Eaton (L) Alexei ® Dunn (L) JDA ® Avi ®  Just to keep consistent w/ the L-R-L-R at the top of the order, and I think maybe the hope is that JDA will get Adam Dunn more fastballs to hit, assuming JDA becomes a feared enough hitter.  Really like how this is coming along, still a work in progress. Of we can add Joe Buck into that as a platoon and fingers crossed getting Howie in this deal. I'd be getting really happy and our team would be pretty close to competing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:42 PM) From nobody credible....people are just pulling stuff out their butts now Im hearing the same thing, Pujols and Dunn are both in it                Edited December 10, 2013 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 LOL, Throw in Dunn and get LAA to throw in about $180 million and the Sox can take on Pujols, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:44 PM) Im hearing the same thing, Pujols and Dunn are both in it Dick. Lol       Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:44 PM) Im hearing the same thing, Pujols and Dunn are both in it           Ban this man       Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 haha Rock forgot to put the winky emoticon in and I bet people saw it and freaked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:37 PM) Well the Sox do -- that's why they let MB walk, and that's probably one of the main reasons they're trading Santiago. Â No, they let him walk because he was getting offered $58M and they foresaw a long rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I've been up for 2 hours now to get my final paper done of college, which is now due 2 hours from now, but this damn trade has totally distracted me. How am I supposed to write a beautiful feature story with this looming over my day? Â HOW!!??!!?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxnGiants Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I like Eaton as a prospect, but what nags at me is that all of the CF prospects we've invested in have failed to make an impact and we had to use a valuable resource to augment that position. Â Still, disregarding that, seems like a fair deal (even though I really liked Santiago). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) xFIP predicts future performance, so I'd guess that's something they would consider when resigning someone. They re-signed him several times, paying him over $81 million in his career when his xFIP was no better than what it was his final season with the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:47 PM) I've been up for 2 hours now to get my final paper done of college, which is now due 2 hours from now, but this damn trade has totally distracted me. How am I supposed to write a beautiful feature story with this looming over my day? Â HOW!!??!!?!?!? Â Stop being a procrastinating bum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:47 PM) Stop being a procrastinating bum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 02:47 PM) Stop being a procrastinating bum? Â It's reeeeeeeally a struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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