If Paulino keeps stinking it up today - what are the odds that he gets sent down and Rienzo is called up?

If Paulino keeps stinking it up today - what are the odds that he gets sent down and Rienzo is called up?

Paulio has to go killing the bullpen.

Release him. He's got nothing.

Normally in a rebuilding year you hold on to guys but yeah, he's toast. Fastball ain't fast and the slow stuff just spins.

Normally in a rebuilding year you hold on to guys but yeah, he's toast. Fastball ain't fastand the slow stuff just spins.

I heard Hawk say on a pitch to Donnie Murphy that his fastball was 96.

I heard Hawk say on a pitch to Donnie Murphy that his fastball was 96.

No movement, no breaking pitch to rely on. Doesn't matter how hard you throw if you're a 1 pitch pitcher.

Normally in a rebuilding year you hold on to guys but yeah, he's toast. Fastball ain't fast and the slow stuff just spins.

Average fastball is over 93, so it should be fast enough to work. It just doesn't move at all and he can't control it. And like you said, his offspeed stuff doesn't have enough break.

Watching the Texas game now, he isn't throwing many fastballs. The one I did notice was an 85mph fastball that sank. It was a ball.

But yeah I do recall now hearing that his velo was fine.

 

I want to say try him out of the pen but that usually requires the ability to throw anything for strikes.

He was never a good minor leaguer.

He was never a good major leaguer.

 

He is 30 years old.

 

There was no reason for anyone to believe he would do well going out of spring training.

There is no reason for anyone to believe he will do anything from this point on.

 

I don't ever want the Sox to lose, but I was hoping that if he was going to lose tonight, it would be the one to do him in. I bet he's gone after tonight.

Edited April 19, 201411 yr by Markbilliards

He's got to go. Geez there has to be somebody who can take the hill as a fifth starter who doesn't get lit up like this. Are there any Freddie Garcia reclamation projects pitching in independent ball? This is embarrassing to trot him out there as an MLB starter.

I'm not sure Rienzo has earned it with his performance so far in the minors so far this season, but there might be no choice with another start or two like that.

 

It's not like they're going to go out and make a trade. They might pick up one of those reclamation veterans, but those guys are going to need their own version of spring training to get up to speed...at least 3 weeks.

 

Rienzo, Surkamp, Beck...they might as well throw a dart against the wall and see whose picture they hit with the toss.

Edited April 19, 201411 yr by caulfield12

I'm so happy that I wasn't able to get near a tv or radio for today's s*** show. I wish they would have just kept Floyd on some sort of incentive laden deal (despite the fact that he's not pitching until sometime in May). Atlanta didn't exactly open the vault to Fort Knox to get him.

Simon was dumped by the Orioles, for example, and has become one of the better pitchers in the early MLB season.

 

Sometimes you get a Quintana or Sale, other times you swing and whiff on these types of deals.

Paulino is rotten, worse than Axelrod was.

It boggled my mind then, it boggles my mind now, how anyone could have thought this guy was going to be effective was beyond me. He made 5 minor league starts last year and they were very similar to his results this season. He was still coming off a serious injury and was going to be rusty any way you slice it. Finally, he wasn't very good to begin with.

 

 

Paulino is rotten, worse than Axelrod was.

 

Speaking of Axelrod; there is your 5Th starter. He's a serviceable RHP, and can eat some innings, thus saving the pen.

On occasion, he can throw a pretty decent game, and isn't horrible the rest of the time.

I can't imagine the Sox adding yet one more left handed starter to the rotation. They desperately need a RHP.

Thank goodness Johnson showed such significant improvement in his last start, after some adjustments he made.

Paulino might just be one of the worst starting pitchers I have seen pitch wearing a Sox uniform. The dude is BAD. It's time for the Sox to cut their losses. They took a chance on the guy, and it didn't pay off. I'm not blaming the Sox for taking a chance. I mean, it did work when they took risks on guys like Loaiza and even Humber for a short while. But if the guy can't produce, we MUST look into the next option. It appears as if Axelrod or Rienzo will be heading the list for the next guy up.

 

Do the right thing, Hahn- cut Paulino now.

Edited April 19, 201411 yr by GreatScott82

It boggled my mind then, it boggles my mind now, how anyone could have thought this guy was going to be effective was beyond me. He made 5 minor league starts last year and they were very similar to his results this season. He was still coming off a serious injury and was going to be rusty any way you slice it. Finally, he wasn't very good to begin with.

I agree... I thought this whole Paulino experiment was a bit odd to me. Perhaps Coop thought he could have pulled off a miracle? Regardless, theirs scouts really botched this one. Time to move on.

Who would have thought that Eric Stults would end up being the second best pitcher the White Sox have let go...after Gio Gonzalez?

 

Well, I guess you have to count Peavy in there two, so 3rd.

 

He's had a very solid/quiet/effective career at PetCo. Now could he have put up anything resembling those same numbers at USCF, it's doubtful.

Paulino is rotten, worse than Axelrod was.

 

Speaking of Axelrod; there is your 5Th starter. He's a serviceable RHP, and can eat some innings, thus saving the pen.

On occasion, he can throw a pretty decent game, and isn't horrible the rest of the time.

I can't imagine the Sox adding yet one more left handed starter to the rotation. They desperately need a RHP.

Thank goodness Johnson showed such significant improvement in his last start, after some adjustments he made.

 

Are you serious? Did you not watch axelrod last season??

 

HOT. GARBAGE. Might as well throw Paulino back out there

If we use Axelrod all season, we actually might end up with the lowest attendance in MLB this year.

 

That's not going to happen. Sacrificial long man, fine, whatever. Not a part of the rotation equation.

I agree... I thought this whole Paulino experiment was a bit odd to me. Perhaps Coop thought he could have pulled off a miracle? Regardless, theirs scouts really botched this one. Time to move on.

I didn't have a problem with the signing per se, it just some of the expectations on this board. Not only did they expect him to be good after basically missing a year, many thought he would be better than he has ever been.

If we use Axelrod all season, we actually might end up with the lowest attendance in MLB this year.

 

That's not going to happen. Sacrificial long man, fine, whatever. Not a part of the rotation equation.

Bring up Reinzo and hope for the best. We are pretty thin in options at this point of the season.

Bring up Reinzo and hope for the best. We are pretty thin in options at this point of the season.

It seems to be the best option, and it probably isn't a good one. This is like shades of the early 2000s where the one starter is just a huge problem.

 

It's one thing to count that spot as almost a guaranteed loss, but they need to find someone that will at least get them through the fifth or sixth inning.