Israel just invaded Gaza. Nice cover

Israel just invaded Gaza. Nice cover

 

Not really, all over news now.

Unfortunate coincidence that it's 18 years to the day that TWA 800 went down with 230 people.

Check the history on that. Nothing really happens.

 

There should be total outrage and repercussions. Innocent people shot down. I'm getting concerned about my trip to South Korea next summer. My fear is with all this type of stuff happening that the kook in North Korea might want to make a statement and invade when South Korea is hosting the World University Games. I don't want to spend the rest of my life in some North Korean prison or get shot down on the flight to South Korea.

That's a different topic though. Today's news horrifies me at the death of civilians for no reason.

@WSJbreakingnews

U.S. intelligence confirms surface-to-air missile fired at Malaysian jet but are divided over origin.

@WSJbreakingnews

U.S. intelligence confirms surface-to-air missile fired at Malaysian jet but are divided over origin.

 

Obvious intelligence is obvious.

Check the history on that. Nothing really happens.

That was over 30 years ago, though.

Malaysian jet -- not European, not a major power, so the international response will be tempered.

 

Are there Americans on every plane everywhere? How many Americans are abroad at any one time? No matter what happens, anywhere in the world, there are Americans there.

@OWillis

 

@owillis: kind of sucks for the dead people too RT @BW The Malaysia Airlines shootdown is a disaster for Putin: http://t.co/SN81feqQr3

Malaysian jet -- not European, not a major power, so the international response will be tempered.

 

Are there Americans on every plane everywhere? How many Americans are abroad at any one time? No matter what happens, anywhere in the world, there are Americans there.

But it was flying out of Amsterdam.

f***in Ruskies man.

But it was flying out of Amsterdam.

 

And the majority of passengers were Dutch

One would imagine the entire Dutch men's national soccer team would have to have been on that plane (going on a tour of SE Asia, for example) to move the bar to "outrage" unfortunately.

 

Btw, has a national carrier ever lost two airliners and 550+ passengers in such a short period of time? It's just weird, when you consider the odds of it happening twice to the same company.

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Death toll up to 298 now

23 Americans on board.

 

That's not what I've heard.

That's not what I've heard.

 

Ya that was false, so far no US citizens confirmed, but 41 still unidentified.

Malaysian jet -- not European, not a major power, so the international response will be tempered.

 

Are there Americans on every plane everywhere? How many Americans are abroad at any one time? No matter what happens, anywhere in the world, there are Americans there.

 

It was a KLM codeshare flight, though. Based on that, and the large percentage of Dutch pax on board, it may as well have been a European airline.

One would imagine the entire Dutch men's national soccer team would have to have been on that plane (going on a tour of SE Asia, for example) to move the bar to "outrage" unfortunately.

 

Btw, has a national carrier ever lost two airliners and 550+ passengers in such a short period of time? It's just weird, when you consider the odds of it happening twice to the same company.

Well American Airlines lost two planes on 9-11 and then another in November of that year. About 400 total.

But it was flying out of Amsterdam.

 

 

And the majority of passengers were Dutch

 

 

It was a KLM codeshare flight, though. Based on that, and the large percentage of Dutch pax on board, it may as well have been a European airline.

 

I didn't realize it was a KLM codeshare. I retract my earlier comment. Thank you for the corrections.

Link

MORE than 100 AIDS activists, researchers and health workers bound for a major conference in Melbourne were on the Malaysia Airlines flight downed in the Ukraine.

 

It is believed that delegates to the 20th International AIDS Conference, due to begin on Sunday, will be informed today that 108 of their colleagues and family members died on MH17.

 

Stunned researchers, activists and development workers arriving at Melbourne Airport paid tribute to AIDS researcher Joep Lange and the other attendees believed killed aboard MH17

Follow link to more about the scientists.

A former Indiana University rower was on board.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/eu....html?hpt=hp_t1

 

 

Apparently a BUK (surface-to-air/SAM) system, and there's also video footage of a battery being brought back across the Russian border.

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Meh. There will be a lot of noise, maybe some sanctions, nothing of importance will happen.

 

^^^

CNN reporting that the black boxes are still in Ukraine, after once reporting they were in Russia.

 

Interesting that Putin says that Ukraine is essentially at fault since it happened over their countryside - I guess that means that he is acknowledging the Donetsk region as part of Ukraine? Ha.

 

My money would still say that this was an error, separatists that either didn't know what they were firing at or some rogue element. I can't imagine any one of the sides being stupid enough to intentionally shoot the plane down.

80 bodies of children, including 3 infants....all will be sweltering in the blistering Ukrainian summer sun for a second day if the militants/separatists don't get out of the way and allow someone with a clue to take over the scene with a professional sense of decency and delicacy.