greg775 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 02:05 AM) Big Game James Shields with six nice, albeit not dominant, innings. Couple questions ... 1.) Do you start Shields in Game One on Friday if you are Ned/Dayton Moore? 2.) What kind of contract has Shields earned with his postseason performance. Again, very beautiful pitching, but does it project to him being great in 3, 4 5 years? Would you say someone is gonna give him six years 25 mill a year? 3.) Butler has looked pretty good this postseason. Has he earned himself a 4-5 year deal from somebody for 15-20 million a year? Appears to me he's back from the dead. KC fans can say what they want on banners. They wanted to run him out of town a few weeks ago. Thanks in advance for the answers. Edited October 6, 2014 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Angels and Tigers eliminated. Nationals on the brink, and the Dodgers are tied up. Goes to show you a large payroll doesn't always guarantee you championships. Love that about baseball, that's why its the greatest game in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Bal vs KC for the ALCS. Nobody would of thought that at the beginning or even middle of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Well said Sox pride. I love how a playoff team with the worst record can sweep the team with the best. Ya just never know. Friday night, KC at Baltimore. I'm guessing Shields vs Tillman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) I would go with Duffy or Ventura but I haven't looked at the head to head numbers yet. Shields will undoubtedly get the ball though as he's earned the right and Duffy Ventura and finnegan will have plenty of opportunities in the future. The royals will really be interesting with victor Martinez...Sandoval...or Hanley in that lineup. Dyson can replace aoki and butlers numbers are easily replaceable. One would expect hosmer moustakas and Perez to all be better offensively. Like the 2005 sox pen you have to doubt that bullpen can put up another 72-1 with a lead going into the 9th. That's unreal. Butler will get $6-8 million per season...for two and possibly three years (option?). Getting older no defensive position power and RBI numbers way down...they would even be better off with willingham and Ibanez but they will have money to spend. Edited October 6, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 5, 2014 -> 09:35 PM) Shields with six nice, albeit not dominant, innings. Couple questions ... 1.) Do you start Shields in Game One on Friday if you are Ned/Dayton Moore? 2.) What kind of contract has Shields earned with his postseason performance. Again, very beautiful pitching, but does it project to him being great in 3, 4 5 years? Would you say someone is gonna give him six years 25 mill a year? 3.) Butler has looked pretty good this postseason. Has he earned himself a 4-5 year deal from somebody for 15-20 million a year? Appears to me he's back from the dead. KC fans can say what they want on banners. They wanted to run him out of town a few weeks ago. Thanks in advance for the answers. Did we watched the same postseason? He's 2/13 with 0 XBH and 2 RBI's. That's even worse than his regular season slash. he'd be lucky to get 3/$30. EDIT: I am going to assume you've mistaken Hosmer as Butler, lol Edited October 6, 2014 by thxfrthmmrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 03:43 AM) I would go with Duffy or Ventura but I haven't looked at the head to head numbers yet. Shields will undoubtedly get the ball though as he's earned the right and Duffy Ventura and finnegan will have plenty of opportunities in the future. The royals will really be interesting with victor Martinez...Sandoval...or Hanley in that lineup. Dyson can replace aoki and butlers numbers are easily replaceable. One would expect hosmer moustakas and Perez to all be better offensively. Like the 2005 sox pen you have to doubt that bullpen can put up another 72-1 with a lead going into the 9th. That's unreal. Butler will get $6-8 million per season...for two and possibly three years (option?). Getting older no defensive position power and RBI numbers way down...they would even be better off with willingham and Ibanez but they will have money to spend. Why would you not start Shields, Caulfield? Doesn't make sense to not pitch the ace on four days rest? That might be the final straw for Royals fans regarding Yost if he messes with successful rotation. I still think Butler will get more than that now that KC is one of the top two teams in the AL. s***, KC would gladly bring him back for 6 million instead of the 12 million he gets if they don't buy him out. He's still young. I think KC would love to have him at the money you suggest. Edited October 6, 2014 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 5, 2014 -> 06:55 PM) Not sure if it's been posted, but Showalter is on the verge of winning Manager of the Year in 1994, 2004 and 2014. Also, it was funny hearing Hawk and Stone say the other day that he requests the radar guns be turned up for the Orioles, and slowed down for the opposition when Baltimore has a home game. Kc has destiny on their side and more ways to beat you right now...but that long layoff could mess up the timing of those confident young hitters. That said speed never slumps. Nor does a bullpen like that...even nastier with finnegan added into the mix. Feels a lot like the white sox 2005 run right now....everything going their way. Scioscia now 10-22 since 2002 World Series...including 1-7 against chisox and royals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 03:50 AM) Kc has destiny on their side and more ways to beat you right now...but that long layoff could mess up the timing of those confident young hitters. That said speed never slumps. Nor does a bullpen like that...even nastier with finnegan added into the mix. Feels a lot like the white sox 2005 run right now....everything going their way. Scioscia now 10-22 since 2002 World Series...including 1-7 against chisox and royals. Great stat on Scioscia. I wonder if he gets the axe. Ditto Ausmus. Teams that spend money can't have happy owners when their teams bow out meekly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 5, 2014 -> 09:49 PM) Why would you not start Shields, Caulfield? Doesn't make sense to not pitch the ace on four days rest? That might be the final straw for Royals fans regarding Yost if he messes with successful rotation. I still think Butler will get more than that now that KC is one of the top two teams in the AL. s***, KC would gladly bring him back for 6 million instead of the 12 million he gets if they don't buy him out. He's still young. I think KC would love to have him at the money you suggest. Unless his stats as a tb ray were terrible against Balt he will go. He's been shaky two starts in a row but gutted it out. It's really unfortunate Duffy was one of the best pitchers in the American League and might not get a single post-season start. His injury came at the wrong time. At any rate I think butler gets 8 million tops. Like the 2006 sox Dayton Moore will want to improve by adding a Sandoval victor Martinez or Hanley Ramirez. Victor on a three year deal makes so much sense for them. Plus he'd have a positive effect mentoring guys like Perez homer and moustakas. Sandoval would be another dh option. Hanley's too injury-prone and beaten up. Edited October 6, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Worth pointing out that KC has a higher opening day ($92M vs $91M) and end of season payroll ($94M vs $87M) than the Sox. We have slightly better attendance than them in recent years. This day and age, having an $100M payroll would be considered below league average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 5, 2014 -> 09:51 PM) Great stat on Scioscia. I wonder if he gets the axe. Ditto Ausmus. Teams that spend money can't have happy owners when their teams bow out meekly. Dd is the one who brought in Jim Johnson Nathan soria and chamberlain. Al al is their best reliever and criminally underused in the late innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Oct 5, 2014 -> 09:56 PM) Worth pointing out that KC has a higher opening day ($92M vs $91M) and end of season payroll ($94M vs $87M) than the Sox. We have slightly better attendance than them in recent years. This day and age, having an $100M payroll would be considered below league average. Not this year...not even close. 2012 sure. The royals also were 86-76 last season. Edited October 6, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Of course not this year. Their attendance this year has nothing to do with their opening day payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Go Orioles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 05:15 AM) Go Orioles! DeAza is the one left standing. Beckham didn't play much in the ALDS as I recall. And Dunn didn't get a sniff of the lineup in the WC card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 5, 2014 -> 10:16 PM) DeAza is the one left standing. Beckham didn't play much in the ALDS as I recall. And Dunn didn't get a sniff of the lineup in the WC card. pr...replacement for freese at 3b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Watch Detroit axe Ausmus and hire Ozzie. Just throwing it out there with no sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I bet littlehurt partied his ass off last night after KC won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 It is just crazy to think that either Baltimore or Kansas City is going to be in the World Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 09:13 AM) I bet littlehurt partied his ass off last night after KC won I will confess... I love watching KC. The defense, the speed, etc. It is throw back baseball, and it is fun to watch. They put stress on the other team, and many teams just can't handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 09:46 AM) I will confess... I love watching KC. The defense, the speed, etc. It is throw back baseball, and it is fun to watch. They put stress on the other team, and many teams just can't handle it. Don't lynch me guys but the pitching,speed, and clutch factor kinda give KC a 05 Sox look and feel. Edited October 6, 2014 by TheTruth05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 09:13 AM) I bet littlehurt partied his ass off last night after KC won Why can't it be Willingham or Infante getting the big hits? Anybody but Hosmer & Moustakas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 09:48 AM) Don't lynch me guys but the pitching,speed, and clutch factor kinda give KC a 05 Sox look and feel. Except the Royals don't hit a lot of home runs (post-season withstanding). They've needed production like this from Hosmer and Moustakas all year and they never really got it. Now they have it and their offense is actually decent. This is another example of a team getting hot at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 10:12 AM) Except the Royals don't hit a lot of home runs (post-season withstanding). They've needed production like this from Hosmer and Moustakas all year and they never really got it. Now they have it and their offense is actually decent. This is another example of a team getting hot at the right time. Yea they're definitely not even close to as dominant as that 05 team was, I just meant the style they play, whether inadvertently or not. But you're right, Moustakas couldn't hit a beach ball (except against the Sox) and now him and hosmer are crushing everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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