December 26, 201411 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 10:15 AM) ok, you convince me that was a bad idea. on a side note, do you really think 50 mil is the cost? let me ask this question, seeing Jose A now, what will you say his worth being??? From the sounds of it, $50 million might be pretty low. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/...thin-two-weeks/ Because of his age and lack of experience in a professional league, the much-hyped Moncada is subject to MLB’s international signing regulations — meaning the team that winds up landing him will likely have to pay big money in penalties to outbid the others. Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports wrote in early November that Moncada’s first contract could be worth $40 million guaranteed. Add in the penalties for going over the international spending cap and we could be talking about a total expenditure of nearly $80 million.
December 26, 201411 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 04:18 PM) From the sounds of it, $50 million might be pretty low. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/...thin-two-weeks/ i didn't know that. thanks.... btw how many yrs is that contract for?
December 26, 201411 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 10:31 AM) i didn't know that. thanks.... btw how many yrs is that contract for? It is a minor league deal, so it is all payable in the first year. With the new signing rules, international players under 23 can't sign major league contracts anymore.
December 26, 201411 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 04:39 PM) It is a minor league deal, so it is all payable in the first year. With the new signing rules, international players under 23 can't sign major league contracts anymore. with that, add the yrs of the contract spread evenly over the yrs so, what can that cost be??
December 26, 201411 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 12:18 PM) with that, add the yrs of the contract spread evenly over the yrs so, what can that cost be?? They can't do that. A minor league deal is only good through one year. After that, the team gets control of him like any other draftee or prospect, and gets to renew his minor league deal.
December 26, 201411 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 06:49 PM) They can't do that. A minor league deal is only good through one year. After that, the team gets control of him like any other draftee or prospect, and gets to renew his minor league deal. very informative, thanks.
January 13, 201511 yr Jesse Sanchez @JesseSanchezMLB 2h2 hours ago Source: Yoan Moncada still not cleared by US govt to sign. His schedule includes seven private workouts with undisclosed teams this month.
January 16, 201511 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 04:13 PM) http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...a-rank-top-100/ Non-Moncada, but Schwarber being so high on that list is insane.
January 16, 201511 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) Non-Moncada, but Schwarber being so high on that list is insane. Gallo at #5, lol
January 16, 201511 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 10:19 AM) Non-Moncada, but Schwarber being so high on that list is insane. I heard a lot of people saying that was a huge reach at the #4 pick and now he's ranked the best prospect in the entire draft class? He's an advanced college bat that feasted on younger competition, SMH.
January 16, 201511 yr QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 08:57 AM) I heard a lot of people saying that was a huge reach at the #4 pick and now he's ranked the best prospect in the entire draft class? He's an advanced college bat that feasted on younger competition, SMH. Where did you see he was the best prospect in the draft class? That list didn't include pitchers, which is who went off the board 1 through 3. Basically the 4th pick (1st position player taken) is currently ranked the top position prospect from that draft (where he was also taken as the top position prospect). Production has been strong to date as well. Don't see anything criminal in those actions.
January 16, 201511 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) Where did you see he was the best prospect in the draft class? That list didn't include pitchers, which is who went off the board 1 through 3. Basically the 4th pick (1st position player taken) is currently ranked the top position prospect from that draft (where he was also taken as the top position prospect). Production has been strong to date as well. Don't see anything criminal in those actions. Whoops didn't realize it was just position guys. But he does say that is 15 of the his top 20, maybe Rodon but doubt anyone else from that draft class is above him.
January 16, 201511 yr QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) Whoops didn't realize it was just position guys. But he does say that is 15 of the his top 20, maybe Rodon but doubt anyone else from that draft class is above him. Well one of the top 3 pitchers didn't sign (so would be ineligible) and Kolek was a prep arm who had a pretty rough debut, IIRC, who I wouldn't expect to be in the top 20. I presume Rodon would be in his top 20.
January 16, 201511 yr QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 10:26 AM) Gallo at #5, lol The list is in alphabetical order.
January 17, 201511 yr QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) Whoops didn't realize it was just position guys. But he does say that is 15 of the his top 20, maybe Rodon but doubt anyone else from that draft class is above him. It's also in alphabetical order. Even still, I can't believe Schwarber is even a top 50 guy, honestly. Yeah, he's got a very polished bat, but he was playing way below his talent level in 2014, and his defense is suspect. He's more than likely a future 1B and we've yet to see his bat against real minor league pitching. He's an extreme helium guy right now.
January 17, 201511 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) Non-Moncada, but Schwarber being so high on that list is insane. How is his ranking so insane? Because he is a college grad and thus old? Geez, the kid is a thumper with the bat, big time.
January 20, 201511 yr No White Sox mentions that I have seen. MLB @MLB 3m3 minutes ago Highly-touted Cuban prospect Yoan Moncada continues his workout rounds: http://atmlb.com/1EnrVNa #HotStove
January 20, 201511 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) No White Sox mentions that I have seen. MLB @MLB 3m3 minutes ago Highly-touted Cuban prospect Yoan Moncada continues his workout rounds: http://atmlb.com/1EnrVNa #HotStove There won't be either.
January 20, 201511 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 20, 2015 -> 03:07 PM) There won't be either. I agree with you.
January 20, 201511 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 20, 2015 -> 09:07 PM) There won't be either. on this one, i can actually look at the logic of how the cost may be too much. but dang it, it would be nice to have Yoan and Anderson leading the charge of the young prospects. i mean the young infield prospects.
January 20, 201511 yr QUOTE (oldsox @ Jan 17, 2015 -> 07:20 AM) How is his ranking so insane? Because he is a college grad and thus old? Geez, the kid is a thumper with the bat, big time. Because he doesn't have a position and he has yet to face any competition. If he dominates AA this year, then I'll be ready to think he's a top 15 hitter in the minors.
January 20, 201511 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 16, 2015 -> 06:54 PM) The list is in alphabetical order. Oh, haha.
January 21, 201511 yr New details on how a Moncada contract could be structured. Tax money is due one month after the signing period closes. While Moncada has to sign a minor league deal, any bonus can be paid over a three year period of unlimited installments, and not just immediately, or within the first year. http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...e-yoan-moncada/
January 22, 201511 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 21, 2015 -> 10:49 PM) New details on how a Moncada contract could be structured. Tax money is due one month after the signing period closes. While Moncada has to sign a minor league deal, any bonus can be paid over a three year period of unlimited installments, and not just immediately, or within the first year. http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...e-yoan-moncada/ here is the same question i asked before. if the skills are there, would you sign him, if the upside is a tick lower than Jose A????
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