Look at Cubs attendance and tell me nothing has changed.

and when they snagged maddon, the media was masturbating all over him and the "next year is now" narrative.

 

and when they signed lester, it was as if they all but won the world series.

and when they snagged maddon, the media was masturbating all over him and the "next year is now" narrative.

 

and when they signed lester, it was as if they all but won the world series.

 

and you think anything has change???

 

they will always be the darling's of the media. the media always love

the underdog.

 

the only way to change that is to win !!!!!!

My question is why are Sox fans offended? Ricketts was talking at Cubs Convention with Cubs fans and made a joke. First of all, the attendance problem is real and true. Second, it's an innocuous joke. Sox fans would get a similar kick out of a joke told by KW at the Cubs expense if the circumstances were similar.

 

This. The amount of butthurt in this thread is unbelievable.

 

i will admit, i can't think or see straight when talking bout that minor league

team north of 290.

 

so i will not post on this anymore. no offense to anyone. it is my

stupid hatred.

Maybe Tom should worry about where his fans are going to sit.

Maybe Tom should worry about where his fans are going to sit.

 

NOW someone comes up with something funny.

 

 

and when they snagged maddon, the media was masturbating all over him and the "next year is now" narrative.

 

and when they signed lester, it was as if they all but won the world series.

 

And when they fail to have another .500 season?

And when they fail to have another .500 season?

I suspect they'll get a new savior.

I suspect they'll get a new savior.

 

And another fall in attendance.

This. The amount of butthurt in this thread is unbelievable.

I don't think we as Sox fans should pretend cubs news doesn't really bother us. It bothers us man. That's the enemy. That's our most hated rival, the enemy constantly at the gates year round. They have control of the town. A part of growing up a Sox fan is the hope that one day maybe the Sox could be SO good that the cubs become irrelevant in this town. How can you not want that, to own the town one day? Everything positive about the cubs is so annoying to me. I mean, do you really want all your cub fan buddies calling you non stop for eternity if they finally win it? Please heavens mercy no.

 

Not calling you out or anything, just saying some people feel this way and can't have a cavalier attitude about it.

 

 

Sox won a world series, and not much changed. And that was with cub teams that were horrible in 05-06

Lol - "not much changed"? Your what hurts? A whole lot changed! We had a waiting list for season tickets in 2006 and set a franchise record for attendance that season by drawing just short of three million fans. Turns out our oft-maligned fan base found exciting post season play interesting. Who knew! But since then the team has returned to the typical achievement level experienced during the other 33 years of the current ownership's regime. That's the part that needs to change, and here's to hoping that happens this season, and continues on for the foreseeable future!

And another fall in attendance.

 

It would take a Cardinals-esque run in order for there to be a real shift in fans. The Cubs have too many innate advantages at the moment.

 

 

No playoff appearances in 6 years (nearing the normal Sox total of one appearance per decade that kind of got ruined there with the anomalies of 2005 and 2008 so close together).

 

2007/2009/2011/2013 really sucked.

 

Other than Abreu, no significant talent added to the team in the free agent market, largely due to the presence of Dunn and Danks...until now.

 

thanks, M34

 

 

 

Actually, the White Sox should at least be as strong as the Mariners franchise. However, Seattle has a nicer stadium, a huge new tv contract that pays around $120 million per season (dovetailing nicely with their recent spending) and the fact they've never made it to the World Series.

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It would take a Cardinals-esque run in order for there to be a real shift in fans. The Cubs have too many innate advantages at the moment.

 

 

Not to mention the fact that the Royals are making inroads in western Missouri, Nebraska (farm team there), Kansas and southwestern Iowa.

 

The Brewers pen them in from the north. Tigers from the near East.

 

 

The major market opportunity they have is the opening up of Cuba, but how to take more advantage of it economically...where the money would go to the Sox directly and not be split with MLB?

Edited January 20, 201511 yr by caulfield12

Not to mention the fact that the Royals are making inroads in western Missouri, Nebraska (farm team there), Kansas and southwestern Iowa.

 

The Brewers pen them in from the north. Tigers from the near East.

 

 

The major market opportunity they have is the opening up of Cuba, but how to take more advantage of it economically...where the money would go to the Sox directly and not be split with MLB?

 

Lol finally unlock the CSN Chicago channel on everyone's direct tv dish down there?

Lol finally unlock the CSN Chicago channel on everyone's direct tv dish down there?

 

 

First, they would have to make owning a satellite dish legal, lol.

 

Maybe it has happened in the last year, or will happen soon.

 

That's an 11 million population. One wonders if Brooks Boyer and the marketing group ever looked at making the White Sox "Cuba's Team" like the Cubs and Braves attempted with WGN and TBS in the 80's and early 90's?

Edited January 20, 201511 yr by caulfield12

Getting worked up over a dumb joke from Ricketts at cubs convention is not the way I want to spend my time. The Sox have a more family friendly experience at the ballpark. They are hoping that builds generations of fans. I'm sure you guys know as much as I do that if you mention anything positive about the Sox to a Cubs fan, the attendance joke gets used.

 

"Abreu was awesome last year."

"Too bad no one showed up to see him."

 

"I have Sox season tickets."

"Do they let you sit wherever you want?"

 

"Kids have more fun at U.S. Cellular Field."

“Can’t be that many kids having fun at U.S. Cellular."

 

It's the same garbage they always fall back on, no matter the discussion. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Getting worked up over a dumb joke from Ricketts at cubs convention is not the way I want to spend my time. The Sox have a more family friendly experience at the ballpark. They are hoping that builds generations of fans. I'm sure you guys know as much as I do that if you mention anything positive about the Sox to a Cubs fan, the attendance joke gets used.

 

"Abreu was awesome last year."

"Too bad no one showed up to see him."

 

"I have Sox season tickets."

"Do they let you sit wherever you want?"

 

"Kids have more fun at U.S. Cellular Field."

“Can’t be that many kids having fun at U.S. Cellular."

 

It's the same garbage they always fall back on, no matter the discussion. Wash, rinse, repeat.

True dat

clearly Tom Ricketts has never been to the southside....show a kid, any kid, the fundamentals deck versus sitting in place for 9 innings, and i'll show you a kid who 'thinks' US Cellular is way more fun. just sayin'!

Tom Ricketts, master of the media

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcHe0xNSxI

Tom Ricketts, master of the media

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcHe0xNSxI

oh man i am going to hate this, but this was a nice show.

 

how come the sox can't do something like this. shows the difference

in media importance.

oh man i am going to hate this, but this was a nice show.

 

how come the sox can't do something like this. shows the difference

in media importance.

I was being sarcastic, they come off as assholes.

It is true the Cubs far outdraw the Sox, and that it would be great if more Sox fans showed up for games (and I think a lot more will this year, though not nearly enough to catch the Cubs yet).

 

It is also true The Cell is a far better destination for kids, which is something that will help the Sox while the Cubs don't get that advantage.

 

It is also also true that a guy in Ricketts' position shouldn't be saying stuff like that because it makes him look like an unprofessional buffoon.

 

Tom Ricketts has thoughts.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, if I was you... Thanks, hi8is.

I don't think we as Sox fans should pretend cubs news doesn't really bother us. It bothers us man. That's the enemy. That's our most hated rival, the enemy constantly at the gates year round. They have control of the town. A part of growing up a Sox fan is the hope that one day maybe the Sox could be SO good that the cubs become irrelevant in this town. How can you not want that, to own the town one day? Everything positive about the cubs is so annoying to me. I mean, do you really want all your cub fan buddies calling you non stop for eternity if they finally win it? Please heavens mercy no.

 

Not calling you out or anything, just saying some people feel this way and can't have a cavalier attitude about it.

I'm usually more worried about Detroit, Minnesota and now Kansas City in any given year than the Cubs.