March 26, 201511 yr Choose 2. Stolen from futuresox. Who you got? I figure Guerra has to a lock by now. He's done nothing but pitch well. That, for me at least, leaves Albers vs the 2 spot/longmen. I'm guessing Penny sticks since they seem to like him a lot.
March 26, 201511 yr After Stone said Coop "loved" Guerra, to me that is pretty much a lock, and he's thrown well since he said it. I think they will go with Albers. They could use a full-figured guy not named Brad Penny on the staff.
March 26, 201511 yr Guessing Guerra and Albers. With one of Carroll or Penny taking the temporary Sale slot and then going down to Charlotte.
March 26, 201511 yr Penny/Guerra. I actually really like the idea of Penny being able to take spot starts and also serve as a middle reliever. If not Penny, Albers in that slot.
March 26, 201511 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 07:42 PM) Guessing Guerra and Albers. With one of Carroll or Penny taking the temporary Sale slot and then going down to Charlotte. i will go with Carroll..... and Guerra, but i wish it will be Webb.
March 26, 201511 yr If Sale is on schedule for the 12th, they go 8 in the pen for the first 5 games Albers, Guerra, Cleto make it-- then probably Cleto goes. Sounds like Petricka and Robertson are dealing with soreness, so nothing will surprise me at this point. They get on the plane to Charlotte a week from now.
March 26, 201511 yr Guerra and Carroll. I like the idea of a long man, but don't like the idea of Brad Penny so Carroll it is.
March 26, 201511 yr It seems like the Sox just might not need another starter since Sale looks like he will be back sooner than later so I went with Guerra and Albers.
March 26, 201511 yr Brandon Webb... <_> Just kidding. I'm not sure how well Albers will hold up health/stamina-wise over a full season, but we can't be TOO confident in Petricka/Putnam/Guerra not regressing. Hopefully Crain becomes a big part of the picture at some point. That would provide a completely different feel to things...of course, we can't realistically expect 2012 Crain. Robertson Duke Crain Petricka Putnam/Guerra/Albers/Webb/Leon/Cleto/Sanburn Jennings LONG MAN That gives you four quality guys at the back end that are dependable/reliable, and some very nice arms/depth on the other side of the pen who can all threaten for increased roles. Edited March 26, 201511 yr by caulfield12
March 26, 201511 yr Might be a surprise candidate. After all there are more than just the pitchers listed still in camp. Maybe someone like Ascenio .
March 26, 201511 yr Carroll is terrible. Penny appears to be likewise. Pick the best pitcher rather than worry about a long man. Guerra and either Cleto or Albers Edited March 26, 201511 yr by GreenSox
March 26, 201511 yr QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 07:34 PM) Carroll is terrible. Penny appears to be likewise. Pick the best pitcher rather than worry about a long man. Guerra and either Cleto or Albers Youre worrying about a pitcher being terrible and then suggested Cleto?
March 27, 201511 yr all the fans who are sox fan and not, knows of the improvement of the team. now, overall, i am still stoke on the players. however, reading about the final 2 spots on the bullpen, can that derail this team?? i mean, i am trying hard to really find a fault in which the soxs needs to address, now we all know Penny, is not a factor imo. but the backend of the pen.
March 27, 201511 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 06:44 PM) Youre worrying about a pitcher being terrible and then suggested Cleto? LOL Good point. For some reason, I think he has some skill. But yea, he probably should be cut.
March 27, 201511 yr Since you can retro the DL 10 days in spring training, start the season with Sale on the DL, and have 8 relievers. The typical long man then won't be needed. Just another guy who could give you 2 innings in a pinch. I don't understand people who would give JR and RH a standing ovation if they waived John Danks, yet have no problem with Brad Penny taking the mound for the White Sox. The guy hasn't been good since Alexei Ramirez left Cuba. If he were lights out this spring, I maybe could understand a spot start, but he has a 6.89 ERA and a 1.787 WHIP.
March 27, 201511 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 08:54 AM) I don't understand people who would give JR and RH a standing ovation if they waived John Danks, yet have no problem with Brad Penny taking the mound for the White Sox. The guy hasn't been good since Alexei Ramirez left Cuba. If he were lights out this spring, I maybe could understand a spot start, but he has a 6.89 ERA and a 1.787 WHIP. Exactly. Penny wasn't even that good ever, he just got a lot of wins one season.
March 27, 201511 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 08:54 AM) Since you can retro the DL 10 days in spring training, start the season with Sale on the DL, and have 8 relievers. The typical long man then won't be needed. Just another guy who could give you 2 innings in a pinch. I don't understand people who would give JR and RH a standing ovation if they waived John Danks, yet have no problem with Brad Penny taking the mound for the White Sox. The guy hasn't been good since Alexei Ramirez left Cuba. If he were lights out this spring, I maybe could understand a spot start, but he has a 6.89 ERA and a 1.787 WHIP. I don't necessarily like Brad Penny in particular, but I do like the idea of having a veteran who could be an adequate swingman. Those guys are hard to come by because, if they're any good, someone will usually give them a full-time rotation spot. FWIW, I'd be just as happy if that swingman was John Danks, but his velocity isn't touching the mid-90's in relief and I'm guessing he's not late enough into his career to accept a role like that willingly.
March 27, 201511 yr QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 06:34 PM) Carroll is terrible. Ehh, he was pretty good out of the pen in a limited sample size and he had his moments as a starter. I think he could be a decent swingman. A guy who can give us long relief and the occasional spot start would be nice.
March 27, 201511 yr QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 09:04 AM) I don't necessarily like Brad Penny in particular, but I do like the idea of having a veteran who could be an adequate swingman. Those guys are hard to come by because, if they're any good, someone will usually give them a full-time rotation spot. FWIW, I'd be just as happy if that swingman was John Danks, but his velocity isn't touching the mid-90's in relief and I'm guessing he's not late enough into his career to accept a role like that willingly. I know Carroll isn't a veteran, but I'd much rather have him be the swingman or spot-starter than Penny at this point in their careers.
March 27, 201511 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 01:54 PM) Since you can retro the DL 10 days in spring training, start the season with Sale on the DL, and have 8 relievers. The typical long man then won't be needed. Just another guy who could give you 2 innings in a pinch. I don't understand people who would give JR and RH a standing ovation if they waived John Danks, yet have no problem with Brad Penny taking the mound for the White Sox. The guy hasn't been good since Alexei Ramirez left Cuba. If he were lights out this spring, I maybe could understand a spot start, but he has a 6.89 ERA and a 1.787 WHIP. i think there were a lot of problems and it was mention, but the sox owners group did not want to spend the money.
March 27, 201511 yr QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 06:31 PM) Might be a surprise candidate. After all there are more than just the pitchers listed still in camp. Maybe someone like Ascenio . Ascencio and Leon might be far outside dark horses, if things fall out just right/wrong.
March 27, 201511 yr QUOTE (Mike F. @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 11:40 AM) I know Carroll isn't a veteran, but I'd much rather have him be the swingman or spot-starter than Penny at this point in their careers. I agree.
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