fathom Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 08:22 PM) You still have to score 2. We didn't. We also scored 0 against Tommy Milone in our home opener. If we continue to score less than 3 runs a game we will have problems Be nice if we can't stop playing a DH that can't hit LHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 04:21 PM) Yeah, this one is not playing out well. Lexi in retrospect tagged him right on the foot which isn't a bad way to tag a guy and not get yourself hurt. It was a simple tag and Lexi made it. The fact Robin a.) didn't challenge. b.) didn't trust Lexi. c.) didn't even walk the batter to give the team a shot at a fluke double play, makes this game one the team is gonna have to forget in a hurry. I mean what was Robin thinking having Duke pitch to the righty with a man on third and one out in a tie game in bottom of ninth? Somebody educate me on that one. ONLY HOPE is the K or popup with a lefty against a righty who plays for a first-place team and is not going to f*** up. Great post Greg. The worst part of this is that he didn't trust Ramirez. I mean, dude, you don't trust Alexei Ramirez to know if he tagged him? Ramirez is many things, but a ballplayer is one of them and you f***ING TRUST YOUR VETS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 03:03 PM) As far as I could tell the White Sox broadcast did not get that view. Only way it wouldn't get overturned is if NY didn't get that view, which they might not have? The radio crew sure didn't. They very clearly thought he missed the tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 08:14 PM) Really need to start worrying about the offense. Through today offense average down to .217 and obp at .265. 15 walks and 67ks with only 25 runs in 9 games. 2.78 runs per game. 3 players over .300, 4 players at .200+ and 6 players below .200. Not good They didn't hit or field in spring training either. I was shocked at their lack of power in ST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 considering Avi is one of the few guys that has showed f***ing anything at the plate this year yea, let's start having him dive again. Think dude. He's worth more playing than not playing and we don't want to lose a potential 300/20/20 guy because of diving in the outfield. If anything it's Chicago's fault for not already moving him to left or 1B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 09:22 PM) This was talked about ad naseum during his rehab process. They were trying to teach him the Maggs slide so he didn't hurt himself. Think of it this way. What hurts more, losing this one game, or losing Avi for 120 games last year? It isn't about being a (and seriously can we with the 21st century and stopping using female derogatory terms as insults?) "p****", it is about being smart enough to realize that 1 game Southsider is right. Hopefully the Maggs slide will work more in the future. He can't be diving balls out with his injury history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 03:21 PM) And it's acceptable for fans to have access to these angles, but not the staff??? You would have to ask the White Sox what replays their people look at. I don't know. There were a few people on here looking at the CSN replays who first said the tag was not made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 04:23 PM) The radio crew sure didn't. They very clearly thought he missed the tag. I didn't see the view on the Tigers broadcast until Tony posted it on the uTubes. The best view that the Sox broadcast got seemed like there was space between the two, but clearly that was incorrect once we got the high-def view. The Tigers booth got that and somehow the White Sox didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 So now they're saying RV went back into the dugout but came out again but it was too late since Romine had already come in to PR...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Only Dick Allen would take the side of it being acceptable for major league officials in charge of utilizing the league's instant review system to not have the full available information to make a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 It's funny how times change. Dick Allen is the new Soxtalk defender of the manager. He's about the only one who truly loves Robin. Years ago, I was the whipping boy who defended Oz's every move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 03:22 PM) Be nice if we can't stop playing a DH that can't hit LHP At least he but the ball in play and got on base once. Better then Melky or Jose or Alexei or Emilio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 If you are one of the posters who said he was safe for 10 min before seeing the other angle then you would have said dont challenge as well so dont act like you also made a split second decision. Thats a video crew fail, umpire fail and manager fail all rolled into one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 this team just isn't good vs elite teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 03:26 PM) Only Dick Allen would take the side of it being acceptable for major league officials in charge of utilizing the league's instant review system to not have the full available information to make a call. When did I write that? We don't know what replays any team has access to. The anger should be toward the video crew whose decision to challenge or not it is. Not Ventura who doesn't have a TV in the dugout., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Binoculars Day at the park tomorrow. /jk Edited April 17, 2015 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 02:24 PM) You would have to ask the White Sox what replays their people look at. I don't know. There were a few people on here looking at the CSN replays who first said the tag was not made. Right. But the Tigers clearly had a better replay of the tag. So: 1) Why didn't the Sox have that replay? 2) Why wasn't the Sox video crew monitoring the Tigers broadcast feed to see all possible angles? 3) Given the situation, score, and Alexi's reaction, why didn't Robin challenge anyway? I can't understand throwing up your hands and saying, "well, what could we do?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 04:29 PM) If you are one of the posters who said he was safe for 10 min before seeing the other angle then you would have said dont challenge as well so dont act like you also made a split second decision. Thats a video crew fail, umpire fail and manager fail all rolled into one. Yea but it falls on the team CEO -- Robin -- to make all of that irrelevant with a smart use of replay. It was a no brainer. But, you know, so is callign off the bunt sign with 2 strikes in the 9th. But hey, that's just a fan talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (Real @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 03:29 PM) this team just isn't good vs elite teams Eh, it was 1-1 into the bottom of the ninth against a pitcher with a 0.0 ERA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Ramirez said he made the tag. “In the ninth inning you have to review that play,” Ramirez said. “Maybe they missed it the first time on the video. I’m 100 percent that I tagged him. If you are going to lose you don’t want to lose in this way.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 03:30 PM) Yea but it falls on the team CEO -- Robin -- to make all of that irrelevant with a smart use of replay. It was a no brainer. But, you know, so is callign off the bunt sign with 2 strikes in the 9th. But hey, that's just a fan talking. Thats why i said it was a manager fail. I also hated the positioning of the infield that far in as well. It proved to be disastrous as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 04:05 PM) I'm awed by the ignorance of this organization. KW really made a nice hire... KW has made this organization horrible. Ever since he got rid of the greatest player in a Sox uniform (The Big Hurt). I have felt for a few years now that the only way this organization gets turned around is for JR to throw KW out a window and let some other unsuspecting team to catch his ass. Teams are built from the top down bc the top makes all of the decisions. We NEED new blood to turn this train wreck around, but that ain't happening anytime soon. Just pray someone in that locker room gets tired of being the butt of all jokes and gets so pissed that he can light a fire under the other players ass and they wake up and play better. Bc the players are the only ones that can salvage this season bc management and coaches are not gonna do anything about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (Real @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 03:29 PM) this team just isn't good vs elite teams DAT ANALYSIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Yep, listen to your player there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 04:29 PM) If you are one of the posters who said he was safe for 10 min before seeing the other angle then you would have said dont challenge as well so dont act like you also made a split second decision. Thats a video crew fail, umpire fail and manager fail all rolled into one. I thought he was safe based on the views the Sox broadcast showed and I also said he should have challenged. Even if he were safe what's the harm? Close enough the umps could screw it up on the replay and help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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