June 21, 201510 yr Just little over 2 months of minor league baseball left. Who is on your top 30 list? Reminder, Rodon, and Sanchez all have graduated from this list. 1. SS Tim Anderson 2. SP Carson Fulmer 3. SP Frankie Montas 4. SP Spencer Adams 5. 2B Micah Johnson 6. 3B Trey Michaelczewsi 7. SP Tyler Danish 8. OF Courtney Hawkins 9. 3B Matt Davidson 10. OF Micker Adolfo 11. SP Chris Beck 12. OF Trayce Thompson 13. SP Thad Lowry 14. OF Jacob May 15. SS Tyler Saladino 16. SP Jordan Guerrero 17. SP Jace Fry (TJ surgery) 18. 2B Jake Peter 19. RP J.B Wendelken 20. SP Andre Wheeler 21. OF Jason Coats 22. C Kevan Smith 23. 1B Keon Barnum 24. RP Miguel Chalas 25. SS Cleluis Rondon 26. OF Adam Engel 27. SS Eddy Alvarez 28. C Brett Austin 29. SP Yency Almonte 30. 3B Nick Delmonico Just missed: Onelki Garcia, OF Mason Robbins, SP James Dykstra, SP Robinson Leyer, C Omar Naverez, OF Antonio Rodriguez, C Jhoandro Alfaro, SS Amado Nunez, Myles Jaye. Thoughts?
June 22, 201510 yr My thoughts: 1. Sounds like a pretty accurate list 2. Sounds like a pretty mediocre list of prospects
June 22, 201510 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 08:51 PM) I probably would include Erik Johnson EJ no longer has prospect status.
June 22, 201510 yr Author QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 09:27 PM) Micah Johnson has technically graduated as well. MJ hasn't met the amount of games played to lose prospect status.
June 22, 201510 yr Fulmer has a 98% chance of entering top (10) and top 100 (milb) ahead of Anderson.
June 22, 201510 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 05:52 PM) Just little over 2 months of minor league baseball left. Who is on your top 30 list? Reminder, Rodon, and Sanchez all have graduated from this list. 1. SS Tim Anderson 2. SP Carson Fulmer 3. SP Frankie Montas 4. SP Spencer Adams 5. 2B Micah Johnson 6. 3B Trey Michaelczewsi 7. SP Tyler Danish 8. OF Courtney Hawkins 9. 3B Matt Davidson 10. OF Micker Adolfo 11. SP Chris Beck 12. OF Trayce Thompson 13. SP Thad Lowry 14. OF Jacob May 15. SS Tyler Saladino 16. SP Jordan Guerrero 17. SP Jace Fry (TJ surgery) 18. 2B Jake Peter 19. RP J.B Wendelken 20. SP Andre Wheeler 21. OF Jason Coats 22. C Kevan Smith 23. 1B Keon Barnum 24. RP Miguel Chalas 25. SS Cleluis Rondon 26. OF Adam Engel 27. SS Eddy Alvarez 28. C Brett Austin 29. SP Yency Almonte 30. 3B Nick Delmonico Just missed: Onelki Garcia, OF Mason Robbins, SP James Dykstra, SP Robinson Leyer, C Omar Naverez, OF Antonio Rodriguez, C Jhoandro Alfaro, SS Amado Nunez, Myles Jaye. Thoughts? Very nice list my man! The only things I would list differently is I would put Fulmer (assuming he signs) #1, Montas #2 and Anderson #3. Just my opinion and there's certainly a case to be made about any of the top three in any order. No matter, Montas, Fulmer and Anderson all make a case for being #1 but there's no doubt that any of the three can make up the 1/2/3 order in any way shape or form. 2015 would be an interesting year. I'm liking the minors and what they have to offer at this point. Hopefully the Sox focus on development and not be overy concerned about rankings.
June 22, 201510 yr Author QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 10:38 PM) I am not buying that only one guy from the 2015 draft makes the top 25 + just missed. I honestly was thinking about that when I looked it over, but I just don't see anyone that would supplant anyone on my given list. Comito? Zangari? Hickman?
June 22, 201510 yr I think several of the international free agents in addition to Adolfo will make the top 30. I'm pretty high on Antonio Rodriguez for a rookie ball type and believe he'll end up in the low 20's.
June 22, 201510 yr I can't believe EJ's 1 month in bigs is enough to lose status but Micah's was not.
June 22, 201510 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 10:06 PM) MJ hasn't met the amount of games played to lose prospect status. Just looked at this, and you are correct. Rodon is (or soon will be) off, same with Sanchez. Our next official T30 will be end of July or so, and it is very possible we could acquire some prospects before then. But with what we have now, assuming Fulmer signs and Mike Hickman doesn't, I guess I'd go with something like this (not heavily researched yet)... 1. Tim Anderson 2. Carson Fulmer 3. Micah Johnson 4. Frank Montas 5. Trey Michalczewski 6. Tyler Danish 7. Spencer Adams 8. Micker Adolfo 9. Jacob May 10. Adam Engel 11. Trayce Thompson 12. Chris Beck 13. Courtney Hawkins 14. Jordan Guerrero 15. Kevan Smith 16. Tyler Saladino 17. Jason Coats 18. Thad Lowry 19. Matt Davidson 20. Onelki Garcia 21. Corey Zangari 22. Cleuluis Rondon 23. Terance Marin 24. Luis Castillo 25. Amado Nunez 26. Andrew Wheeler 27. Eddy Alvarez 28. Jhoandro Alfaro 29. Keon Barnum 30. Jake Peter Next 10 (not necessarily in order): David Trexler, Jordan Stephens, Brian Clark, Zack Erwin, JB Wendelken, Yency Almonte, Robin Leyer, Johan Cruz, Mason Robbins, Danny Hayes
June 22, 201510 yr That's the highest take on Engel i've seen, especially since he's stunk like rotting fish in May/June.
June 22, 201510 yr QUOTE (daggins @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 10:54 AM) That's the highest take on Engel i've seen, especially since he's stunk like rotting fish in May/June. He's hitting .281 in his last 15 games. I'd say that's a little better than "stunk like rotting fish", though certainly he's lacked the power lately too. That said, again, I didn't do a ton of research. I might drop him back a little bit, but I believe in the tools and he's not going to be much lower than that for me.
June 22, 201510 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 10:18 AM) Just looked at this, and you are correct. Rodon is (or soon will be) off, same with Sanchez. Our next official T30 will be end of July or so, and it is very possible we could acquire some prospects before then. But with what we have now, assuming Fulmer signs and Mike Hickman doesn't, I guess I'd go with something like this (not heavily researched yet)... 1. Tim Anderson 2. Carson Fulmer 3. Micah Johnson 4. Frank Montas 5. Trey Michalczewski 6. Tyler Danish 7. Spencer Adams 8. Micker Adolfo 9. Jacob May 10. Adam Engel 11. Trayce Thompson 12. Chris Beck 13. Courtney Hawkins 14. Jordan Guerrero 15. Kevan Smith 16. Tyler Saladino 17. Jason Coats 18. Thad Lowry 19. Matt Davidson 20. Onelki Garcia 21. Corey Zangari 22. Cleuluis Rondon 23. Terance Marin 24. Luis Castillo 25. Amado Nunez 26. Andrew Wheeler 27. Eddy Alvarez 28. Jhoandro Alfaro 29. Keon Barnum 30. Jake Peter Next 10 (not necessarily in order): David Trexler, Jordan Stephens, Brian Clark, Zack Erwin, JB Wendelken, Yency Almonte, Robin Leyer, Johan Cruz, Mason Robbins, Danny Hayes Matt, where would you have Michael Hickman ranked if he signs?
June 22, 201510 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) Matt, where would you have Michael Hickman ranked if he signs? Hard to say, I need to research him more. But I'm pretty sure he'd make the list. Beyond that, not really sure.
June 22, 201510 yr QUOTE (daggins @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 10:54 AM) That's the highest take on Engel i've seen, especially since he's stunk like rotting fish in May/June. His tools alone are enticing. If you value ceiling over floor, you value him higher than someone who values floor over ceiling. Guys like him, Thompson, Rodriguez, Guerrero, Ortiz (before the injuries) etc. I've liked more than others in the past.
June 22, 201510 yr QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 05:50 PM) His tools alone are enticing. If you value ceiling over floor, you value him higher than someone who values floor over ceiling. Guys like him, Thompson, Rodriguez, Guerrero, Ortiz (before the injuries) etc. I've liked more than others in the past. my take is the sox prospects, according to this ratings, #9-19, excluding #11,12,14 and 18, will need to improve a lot in order to improve their position as a major prospects. i have no faith in them.
June 23, 201510 yr 1. Tim Anderson 2. Micah Johnson- We had a prospect actually come up and hold his own, kind of. How exciting is that? That's like the first time in 10 years. His defense should come along and his base running certainly will. 3. Carson Fulmer- Looked incredible last night. No problem labeling his a future top of the rotation guy. 4. Frankie Montas 5. Tyler Danish-He's a 20 year old in AA and people are now down on him. It's literally the first hiccup he's had. 6. Spencer Adams 7. Trey M 8. Courtney Hawkins 9. Mike Adolfo 10. Chris Beck- should probably be up like now 11. JB Wendelken- great K ratio. Should be a safe bet to Crack the majors at some point. 12. Trayce Thompson- Terrific make or break year for him. 13. Adam Engel 14. Thad Lowry 15. Kevan Smith 16. Matt Davidson 17. Corey Zangari- Power was one of the elite tools in all the draft. But he seems completely raw otherwise so it's going to be tough for him in this organization. 18. Jordan Guerrero 19. Onelki Garcia- Getting up there in age but he's still putting up some elite K numbers. 20. Junior Guerra- sure, why not
June 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 09:02 AM) I can't believe EJ's 1 month in bigs is enough to lose status but Micah's was not. It used to be 50 IP for pitchers, 130 AB's for hitters and/or 45+ games on the active roster (besides September, I think). Johnson's just BARELY over, 51 IP. That Jace Fry TJ surgery is also really hurting the lower minors in terms of pitching depth, too... Edited June 23, 201510 yr by caulfield12
June 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 09:12 AM) That Jace Fry TJ surgery is also really hurting the lower minors in terms of pitching depth, too... Eh, one guy who was ranked in the teens doesn't "really hurt" much of anything, though it made a small dent perhaps. He is now being replaced in that rotation by Brennan, coming off surgery, a former high round pick. The real decline in the system is about the top.
June 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 02:18 PM) Eh, one guy who was ranked in the teens doesn't "really hurt" much of anything, though it made a small dent perhaps. He is now being replaced in that rotation by Brennan, coming off surgery, a former high round pick. The real decline in the system is about the top. i totally agree in the comment about the decline on top of the system. however, when this system needs players, 1 who has promise, does make a little dent in the system. and again, ref Brennan and another pitcher, for me, will move up in the system, pretty much as you said.
June 23, 201510 yr This is a bottom 1/4 system at this time. A developed Micah Johnson as #2 (or even #5) tells you that. Lots could change between now and then, primarily based on what happens in the rookie leagues and A ball. Adolpho could really blossom, e.g.
June 24, 201510 yr QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 09:08 AM) 2. Micah Johnson- We had a prospect actually come up and hold his own, kind of. How exciting is that? That's like the first time in 10 years. His defense should come along and his base running certainly will. If by "hold his own" you mean, "put up -0.3 fWAR in just 83 PA," then we are in agreement. Sub-replacement level is a strange definition of "hold his own" though.
June 24, 201510 yr QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 10:20 AM) If by "hold his own" you mean, "put up -0.3 fWAR in just 83 PA," then we are in agreement. Sub-replacement level is a strange definition of "hold his own" though. Maybe he meant offensively? He wasn't great at the plate but he wasn't bad either.
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