July 28, 201510 yr Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago Source: #Royals getting #Athletics’ Zobrist. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal Going all out
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago Source: #Royals getting #Athletics’ Zobrist. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal Going all out Nice move to replace Chris Getz...that is their 2B right?
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 02:32 PM) Nice move to replace Chris Getz...that is their 2B right? Infante's been their 2b for a while now. I don't know that Getz is even int he league any more?
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 02:32 PM) Don't mind them clearing their system for rentals. If I were in their spot, with Gordon hitting FA this year, I would too.
July 28, 201510 yr Author and while this was going down Tom Brady's suspension was upheld. Twitter is about to break.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) Infante's been their 2b for a while now. I don't know that Getz is even int he league any more? What??
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) Don't mind them clearing their system for rentals. Exactly my thoughts.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) Nice move to replace Chris Getz...that is their 2B right? For realz???
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) Infante's been their 2b for a while now. I don't know that Getz is even int he league any more? Getz retired.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:42 PM) Getz retired. As the GOAT. Edited July 28, 201510 yr by Rowand44
July 28, 201510 yr Author Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 2m2 minutes ago #Royals are getting Aaron Brooks and Sean Manea, source says. https://twitter.com/jcrasnick Great trade for Beane
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) Wow That's a really good prospect for a rental like Zobrist. Edit: holy crap, didn't know he was a top 3 prospect in their system. How in the world did Beane pull that off? Edited July 28, 201510 yr by chw42
July 28, 201510 yr Hasn't history shown that deadline deals rarely pay off? KC did get Cueto and Zobrist, probably about as good as they can do, at the cost of 5 arms. If they don't win the WS, they pretty much shot their wad.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:48 PM) Hasn't history shown that deadline deals rarely pay off? KC did get Cueto and Zobrist, probably about as good as they can do, at the cost of 5 arms. If they don't win the WS, they pretty much shot their wad. After losing game 7 year, I do not blame them for going for it.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 02:48 PM) Hasn't history shown that deadline deals rarely pay off? KC did get Cueto and Zobrist, probably about as good as they can do, at the cost of 5 arms. If they don't win the WS, they pretty much shot their wad. Depends on how you classify paying off. When only 1 team wins the WS every year, if you make a deadline deal and base it only on whether teams win the WS, it's not likely to pay off, because winning the WS is tough even if you do everything right. However, there are certainly examples of deadline deals playing key roles in the WS. Immediately coming to mind - the 2011 Cardinals totally overhauled their entire bullpen in the Rasmus deal at the deadline and that paid off hugely. Giants picked up Hunter Pence at the 2012 deadline and he was a key part of a WS winning team. 2013 Red Sox picked up Jake Peavy and Matt Thornton.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:45 PM) Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 2m2 minutes ago #Royals are getting Aaron Brooks and Sean Manea, source says. https://twitter.com/jcrasnick Yay the Bulls finally got rid of Brooks! No?
July 28, 201510 yr This move has Kenny Williams written all over it. Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 8m8 minutes ago How serious are #Royals as part of haul for Cueto/Zobrist have traded 1st-round, 2d-round pick from '13 (Manaea, Reed), 1st '14 (Finnegan)
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:48 PM) Hasn't history shown that deadline deals rarely pay off? KC did get Cueto and Zobrist, probably about as good as they can do, at the cost of 5 arms. If they don't win the WS, they pretty much shot their wad. How's that? You really don't think they are capable of taking the $100 million they were going to have to spend on Alex Gordon and investing it in their pitching staff, which is basically the same thing they did coming into this season....spreading the James Shields/Aoki money around to Morales, Chris Young, Alex Rios, Joe Blanton, Hochevar and Kris Medlen? They'll need to add another starting pitcher before next season, but they still have Kyle Zimmer and Medlen as options, just to name two. They're selling out quite a few of their games and have the best tv ratings of any team in their regional market. With Volquez, Duffy, Ventura and some filler for the 4-5 spots (Guthrie/Blanton/Young/Vargas), they're sitting in a decent position. Certainly they'll add another starter next off-season, although it probably won't be Price or Cueto (but you never know). Most importantly, they still have that all in their primes core of cost-controlled Lorenzo Cain, Moustakas, Escobar, Hosmer and Sal Perez. In all likelihood, Mondesi, Jr., replaces Infante, but he's not ready yet. They still have the best bullpen. With Gordon out and Mondesi, Jr., not ready, they made the most logical move/s to give them the best possible chance to get back to the World Series again this year, without precluding them from competing for at least the next two, if not three seasons.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:48 PM) Hasn't history shown that deadline deals rarely pay off? KC did get Cueto and Zobrist, probably about as good as they can do, at the cost of 5 arms. If they don't win the WS, they pretty much shot their wad. Those 5 arms don't guarantee anything for the future either. You might as well go for it while you have the chance, especially with the randomness of the playoffs nowadays.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 02:03 PM) How's that? You really don't think they are capable of taking the $100 million they were going to have to spend on Alex Gordon and investing it in their pitching staff, which is basically the same thing they did coming into this season....spreading the James Shields/Aoki money around to Morales, Chris Young, Alex Rios, Joe Blanton, Hochevar and Kris Medlen? They'll need to add another starting pitcher before next season, but they still have Kyle Zimmer and Medlen as options, just to name two. They're selling out quite a few of their games and have the best tv ratings of any team in their regional market. With Volquez, Duffy, Ventura and some filler for the 4-5 spots (Guthrie/Blanton/Young/Vargas), they're sitting in a decent position. Certainly they'll add another starter next off-season, although it probably won't be Price or Cueto (but you never know). Most importantly, they still have that all in their primes core of cost-controlled Lorenzo Cain, Moustakas, Escobar, Hosmer and Sal Perez. In all likelihood, Mondesi, Jr., replaces Infante, but he's not ready yet. They still have the best bullpen. With Gordon out and Mondesi, Jr., not ready, they made the most logical move/s to give them the best possible chance to get back to the World Series again this year, without precluding them from competing for at least the next two, if not three seasons. Oh, the TV ratings. They gave up 5 arms in 2 KW moves, Finnegan, a guy you said was one of the greatest prospects in the game, and a top 60 prospect for rentals. History has shown deadline acquistions rarely determine the WS outcome, so trading 5 prospects and burning out your bullpen isn't a recipe for sustained success. If the Royals can't re-sign Gordon, they won't be able to get Cueto or Zobrist. This is their shot. If they blow it, it will be back to the drawing board. Edited July 28, 201510 yr by Dick Allen
July 28, 201510 yr I'm not familiar with the Royals' system. They just gave up 5 arms for Cueto and Zobrist. What kind of pitching do they have left on the farm?
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 02:18 PM) I'm not familiar with the Royals' system. They just gave up 5 arms for Cueto and Zobrist. What kind of pitching do they have left on the farm? Finnegan and Manaea were the Royals top 2 pitching prospects.
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