Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 35m35 minutes ago

Have heard chisox are on upton and cespedes now. Things have really turned around for south siders

Given closure in the catch-all, this now allows for discussion on Upton within here (similarly, we have a thread on Cespedes, who has been rumored).

Must admit, Soxtalk's obsession with not allowing catch-alls is sorta.....bizarre.

Jim Bowden ‏@JimBowden_ESPN 4m4 minutes ago

Where are the possible fits for Justin Upton and Yoenis Cespedes rentals? #WhiteSox #Orioles #Angels #Mets #Royals #Twins #Cardinals

Must admit, Soxtalk's obsession with not allowing catch-alls is sorta.....bizarre.

 

sssshhhhhhhhh he can hear you *whisper*

I really don't like the idea of going for a rental. We are still on the outside looking in and are working towards a longer term plan. This winning is nice, but I'd rather give up an extra prospect for Carlos Gomez or someone else who will be around vs. giving up prospects who won't even be around next year to help us (especially positional prospects).

Out of Upton and Cespedes, I think Upton would sign an extension of the two.

I really don't like the idea of going for a rental. We are still on the outside looking in and are working towards a longer term plan. This winning is nice, but I'd rather give up an extra prospect for Carlos Gomez or someone else who will be around vs. giving up prospects who won't even be around next year to help us (especially positional prospects).

Then what would we do in 2016 with 4 outfielders, not including Shuck/Trayce?

I really don't like the idea of going for a rental. We are still on the outside looking in and are working towards a longer term plan. This winning is nice, but I'd rather give up an extra prospect for Carlos Gomez or someone else who will be around vs. giving up prospects who won't even be around next year to help us (especially positional prospects).

 

I agree I rsther get either CarGos but they may be more expensive for what we're looking for. Who knows the prices or the market. Plus there's a report of Ross being traded as part (a larger part) of a deal. And if we get Ross with Upton for a responible price it helps us now and our three year plan.

Must admit, Soxtalk's obsession with not allowing catch-alls is sorta.....bizarre.

You can blame me (although I'm not the only person anti-catch all), but as the owner, I have certain preferences and I hate solid rumors burred in threads. It is a pain in the ass for me to read (when I don't want to necessarily read through pages of discussion if I'm trying to get caught up on news / rumors) and it is also bad for forum discussion (and as an admin, I try to do what helps generate discussion).

Then what would we do in 2016 with 4 outfielders, not including Shuck/Trayce?

What 4 outfielders are you referring to? Trayce and Shuck aren't starters and Avi isn't a starter either (and I presume would be part of a trade).

Doesn't a rental go against the Sox looking for players in the " 3 year window"?

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Doesn't a rental go against the Sox looking for players in the " 3 year window"?

This has KW all over it.

What 4 outfielders are you referring to? Trayce and Shuck aren't starters and Avi isn't a starter either (and I presume would be part of a trade).

I'm referring to Eaton, Melky, Gomez, and Garcia.

You can blame me (although I'm not the only person anti-catch all), but as the owner, I have certain preferences and I hate solid rumors burred in threads. It is a pain in the ass for me to read (when I don't want to necessarily read through pages of discussion if I'm trying to get caught up on news / rumors) and it is also bad for forum discussion (and as an admin, I try to do what helps generate discussion).

I understand the solid rumors buried in threads thing, but how are catch-alls bad for forum discussion? IMO they're better, as there were many more quality posts in the buyer thread than there are now in the smaller threads.

You can blame me (although I'm not the only person anti-catch all), but as the owner, I have certain preferences and I hate solid rumors burred in threads. It is a pain in the ass for me to read (when I don't want to necessarily read through pages of discussion if I'm trying to get caught up on news / rumors) and it is also bad for forum discussion (and as an admin, I try to do what helps generate discussion).

 

You're in charge, and don't get me wrong, I appeciate all that the admins to to keep this place running, but I think you accomplish the exact opposite of promoting discussion. But I understand your stance.

Doesn't a rental go against the Sox looking for players in the " 3 year window"?

 

If it's just a trade for Upton, yes. Depending on what he costs maybe not. But if it's for Upton and Ross then atleast you have Ross after this year and Upton for the run.

You can blame me (although I'm not the only person anti-catch all), but as the owner, I have certain preferences and I hate solid rumors burred in threads. It is a pain in the ass for me to read (when I don't want to necessarily read through pages of discussion if I'm trying to get caught up on news / rumors) and it is also bad for forum discussion (and as an admin, I try to do what helps generate discussion).

Buried in 6 pages of discussion on Justin sellers, news broke on cespedes, but you would have little idea. You're in the right here.

This has KW all over it.

That or just sports writers speculating as usual.

I understand the solid rumors buried in threads thing, but how are catch-alls bad for forum discussion? IMO they're better, as there were many more quality posts in the buyer thread than there are now in the smaller threads.

 

Yep.

Buried in 6 pages of discussion on Justin sellers, news broke on cespedes, but you would have little idea. You're in the right here.

 

Except that it has its own thread. Actually it had 3 at one point.

I'm referring to Eaton, Melky, Gomez, and Garcia.

See, that is where I have no issue. Avi is not a major league starting outfielder (not on a contending club with other lineup issues). I understand he is young and has some tools but I think he is a bad baseball player and given our pitching stuff, am okay cutting ties with him and finding a capable outfielder. I really don't think a lot of people realize just how terrible Avi Garcia is. They all underestimate the awfulness of him because of his age and "tools".

I really don't like the idea of going for a rental. We are still on the outside looking in and are working towards a longer term plan. This winning is nice, but I'd rather give up an extra prospect for Carlos Gomez or someone else who will be around vs. giving up prospects who won't even be around next year to help us (especially positional prospects).

 

Couldn't agree more

Except that it has its own thread. Actually it had 3 at one point.

I started the thread well after it was buried in there.

I started the thread well after it was buried in there.

 

I can't tell you how many threads have been started, cleaned up, combined, and deleted in the last few days because of no catch alls. I am guessing you aren't seeing half of them then.