If he gets less than Bonifacio or Keppinger recently received (for basically doing nothing) to play SS everyday for the White Sox this year, it will be shocking.

 

Wonder how well that would sit staring at an older LaRoche on the bench making 3 times as much (sitting against lefties) and basically contributing little while he's playing the most important position on the entire field, along with catcher?

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Not 34 year olds with declining offensive and defensive production.

 

In fact, I would say, the over 30 crowd is probably having a harder time getting a big payday than their steroid era counterparts.

 

Steven Drew just got a five million contract from the Yankees last year after hitting in the .100's for two different teams in 2014.

 

JJ Hardy turned a .682 OPS into a 3 year deal pushing $40 million. Alexei was .642 this season, and still a way better defender.

You are probably right, that it could be closer to 3-4 M. I presume somewhere in the deal their will be an option for the 2nd year (if he signs with the Sox). In terms of the market, I agree that in general, aging players are having a hard time getting bigger contracts as people are aging more normally (vs. during the steroid era). Both OC and Alexei are good comparisons as neither was ever the best shortstop in baseball, but both were widely viewed as upper echelon guys during chunks of their career. That said, 3-4M puts him at utility costs (of some guys) so I do think he gets a tick more then that (or at least has some incentives that could push the value up).

The other problem Alexei has is the teams who probably would have interest bringing him in, I would think TB, maybe Oakland, don't exactly break the bank with contract offers.

He'll be back.

Everyone has to remember when comparing contracts that Alexei's age is a factor too.

 

Everyone has to remember when comparing contracts that Alexei's age is a factor too.

 

how old is the guy, I wonder?

how old is the guy, I wonder?

At least 34.

 

Steven Drew just got a five million contract from the Yankees last year after hitting in the .100's for two different teams in 2014.

 

JJ Hardy turned a .682 OPS into a 3 year deal pushing $40 million. Alexei was .642 this season, and still a way better defender.

And both teams regret their decision.

Steven Drew just got a five million contract from the Yankees last year after hitting in the .100's for two different teams in 2014.

 

JJ Hardy turned a .682 OPS into a 3 year deal pushing $40 million. Alexei was .642 this season, and still a way better defender.

 

By what metric? FanGraphs has him better defensively every year since 2011, and while I know the Gold Glove is a questionable award, Hardy won it 3 straight times from 2012-2014.

Steven Drew just got a five million contract from the Yankees last year after hitting in the .100's for two different teams in 2014.

 

JJ Hardy turned a .682 OPS into a 3 year deal pushing $40 million. Alexei was .642 this season, and still a way better defender.

 

Kendrys Morales didn't exactly kill off the value of the 30 something crowd, either.

 

Or look at how much longer Torii Hunter was effective from an offensive standpoint than anyone expected.

 

For every Victor Martinez (who quite a few still wanted to sign) or Chone Figgins, there's always going to be some bargains...look no further than the changes in our roster from 2004 to 2005.

 

Heck, people are talking about Mr. Defensively-Challenged Murphy of the Mets getting $10-12 million and even upwards of $15 million at second base, a seemingly less important position. Alex Rios got $11 million and an option year at roughly the same age and relative production positionally...

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Surprised by this move. Alexei was quite HORRIBLE through June last year, but from July through the end of the year, he hit quite well. I expected the Sox to chalk up his poor start to the mental distractions he was dealing with.

 

If he re-signs on a cheaper deal, though, then it could be a win for the Sox. Even if it's for 2 years. Because if he bounces back, or plays like he did at the end of 2015, he'll have some real trade value. And if not, the Sox shouldn't be locked in for more than the would have been if they'd picked up the option.

By what metric? FanGraphs has him better defensively every year since 2011, and while I know the Gold Glove is a questionable award, Hardy won it 3 straight times from 2012-2014.

 

He has a higher Dwar than Hardy, even with the horrible start.

 

And both teams regret their decision.

 

It is a mighty false assumption to assume that at least one team won't make a bad decision this year.

He has a higher Dwar than Hardy, even with the horrible start.

Hardy played 114 games.

They can't honestly think Anderson is ready.. can they?

I still really wish the Sox would have traded him 2 years ago when his value was high.

It is a mighty false assumption to assume that at least one team won't make a bad decision this year.

We will see. The teams that generally throw money around appear to be set at SS.,

They can't honestly think Anderson is ready.. can they?

 

good question. but the real question should be, are the sox really thinking of rushing Anderson as they may have with EJ MJ and others????

I still really wish the Sox would have traded him 2 years ago when his value was high.

 

they couldn't .... not with JA coming in. that was the wild card.

 

whether it has any positive results, only someone close to the ball club and to JA will be able to answer that.

He was much better from July 1-end of the year than he was before then. He hit better and IIRC, he was the best defensive SS in baseball in July. He still has value and he'll likely be back. Hard to believe he has been on our team for 8 years.

They can't honestly think Anderson is ready.. can they?

 

I don't think they would bring up Anderson to start the year off. We would probably see Sanchez/Saladino at SS with Micah at 2B unless we were to sign a vet in FA and I am not sure if there is even anyone out there. If we are struggling in July and Anderson is doing well in AAA I could see them bringing him up at that point

Sanchez was a SS in the minors right? Maybe they go that route. Sanchez got better as the season went on so maybe he gets a shot to continue that with Micah at 2B.....Or perhaps my preferred route, Sanchez at SS, Micah traded, and Howie Kendrick playing 2B.

I don't think they would bring up Anderson to start the year off. We would probably see Sanchez/Saladino at SS with Micah at 2B unless we were to sign a vet in FA and I am not sure if there is even anyone out there. If we are struggling in July and Anderson is doing well in AAA I could see them bringing him up at that point

 

Anderson at SS and Micah at 2B.. and this outfield..

 

have fun pitching staff

I think they would have traded him if he weren't coming back in 2016.

Anderson at SS and Micah at 2B.. and this outfield..

 

have fun pitching staff

 

wow, that is scary.... talk about a rebellion among the pitchers as the all star break.