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Jeff Samardjiza signs with SF Giants, 5/90.

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QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 01:59 PM)
Reading the comments about Samardzija on MLBTR was a funny read. Good stuff there. :drink :jerry

 

 

fWAR is useless. Doesn't make sense.

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I bet it's bs. But then again it is free agency.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 01:48 PM)
Agree, I don't care for Frazier much. He had a hot streak, but is sub standard defensively and outside of getting hot, is not much more than an average bat.

 

Ugh, what? He has posted a 2.6 WAR or higher the last 4 seasons, with 2 being higher than 4 WAR. In addition, he rates pretty highly defensively. 6th best defensive score, 6th best UZR, 7th best UZR/150, and 7th best DRS among 3B.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:03 PM)
Ugh, what? He has posted a 2.6 WAR or higher the last 4 seasons, with 2 being higher than 4 WAR. In addition, he rates pretty highly defensively. 6th best defensive score, 6th best UZR, 7th best UZR/150, and 7th best DRS among 3B.

 

 

Thank you...I was just about to say something about that "sub par" bat.

if Samardzija has a 100M offer on the table, i highly doubt it is the Cubs. I dont think they are gonna offer him 4/84 in 2014 and then offer him 16M more after the season he had last year.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:02 PM)
fWAR is useless. Doesn't make sense.

I don't pay much attention to it myself. I'm mainly laughing because the Samardzija supporters are arguing on his behalf saying the Sox defense was bad, which it was and is true. But the Sox defense had nothing to do with the 29 cruise missiles launched off the bats of opposing hitters, that's on Samardzija.

 

But hey, he tweaked his mechanics and is all good now. :P

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:07 PM)
if Samardzija has a 100M offer on the table, i highly doubt it is the Cubs. I dont think they are gonna offer him 4/84 in 2014 and then offer him 16M more after the season he had last year.

Thinking the same thing. Signing Samardzija would chew most of if not all of what the cubs have to spare.

 

Imo, SF is trying to drive up the price on Grienke while looking at a more realistic option like Samardzija. I'm guessing SF made that offer.

 

 

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:10 PM)
I don't pay much attention to it myself. I'm mainly laughing because the Samardzija supporters are arguing on his behalf saying the Sox defense was bad, which it was and is true. But the Sox defense had nothing to do with the 29 cruise missiles launched off the bats of opposing hitters, that's on Samardzija.

 

But hey, he tweaked his mechanics and is all good now. :P

 

 

I think fWAR for pitchers is far more useful but that's me I guess.

QUOTE (kevo880 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 01:43 PM)
As badly as we need a third baseman I would hate to see a deal of Quinatana for Frasier, even if there were more pieces involved.

 

Hahn will not give up 5 years of Quintana for 2 years of Frazier.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:21 PM)
Hahn will not give up 5 years of Quintana for 2 years of Frazier.

 

I hope not, but it's hard to come up with better third basemen that are available.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:02 PM)
fWAR is useless. Doesn't make sense.

 

 

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:17 PM)
I think fWAR for pitchers is far more useful but that's me I guess.

I'm a bit confused here. :huh:

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:28 PM)
I'm a bit confused here. :huh:

 

 

The first one should have been in green. The comments section had a guy that was talking about fWAR being useless. I thought that was funny. Then I stated that I prefer fWAR when comparing pitchers. My bad.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:31 PM)
The first one should have been in green. The comments section had a guy that was talking about fWAR being useless. I thought that was funny. Then I stated that I prefer fWAR when comparing pitchers. My bad.

Ok, I follow ya. I admit that I mostly stick to traditional stats so that's why I was confused. :lol:

If he has $100 million on the table, which I seriously doubt, IMO, it's the Dodgers if they don't bring back Greinke.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 03:02 PM)
fWAR is useless. Doesn't make sense.

 

lol

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:40 PM)
lol

 

 

Did you read the quotes on MLBTR? That's what I was referring to.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 04:39 PM)
Did you read the quotes on MLBTR? That's what I was referring to.

 

Yeah, that's what my "lol" was referring to also. Sorry for unclear. I am lazy with posts sometimes.

f*** Samardzija.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 08:46 PM)
Once again, this should just make you appreciate the value of the contracts of Sale and Q. How Hahn got those done, I'll never understand.

 

Pretty easy actually. Only one full year in the rotation so not a lot of leverage, could only negotiate with us, took the money for financial security, didn't buy out many free agent years (only 2 for Sale). Just wait for his next contract haha

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 02:44 AM)
Psh and people here thought he'd accept the QO.

 

even if he did, a sp at 16+ who needs to do the best he can to redeem his value, by default, the sox will get the reward as well not only but the win / lost stat, then next yr give him another QO..

Sounds like Cubs might be going the hardest after Lackey. I don't think that would be a great fit for them.

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