December 1, 201510 yr Well gang, the Price deal (to me) officially seals the deal: The White Sox CAN NOT trade Q or Sale. There is no possible way to recoup the value that each is in terms of years of control and financial commitment left for the WSox. If I were Sale and Q, I'd be firing my agents for not having the foresight to anticipate the market for pitching. Security when young is one thing, but they cost themselves truckloads of $$. Keep the pitching and keep attempting to build around it.
December 1, 201510 yr 100% agree. I'd keep Rodon, Fulmer, and Johnson for the foreseeable future too. Sale/Q/Rodon/Fulmer/Johnson is DEFINITELY a more than formidable starting rotation for the next 3-4 years. Like you said, they have the pitching. They need to build around it.
December 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 05:36 PM) Samardzija gonna cash in. Maybe. The problem with these "precedent-setting" deals is that they have the secondary effect of removing the deepest pocket from the bidding pool. There are four teams that are going to commit big on a starter before Samardzija's name gets pulled, and the Tigers and BoSox are already out.
December 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (bruni @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 04:26 PM) Well gang, the Price deal (to me) officially seals the deal: The White Sox CAN NOT trade Q or Sale. There is no possible way to recoup the value that each is in terms of years of control and financial commitment left for the WSox. If I were Sale and Q, I'd be firing my agents for not having the foresight to anticipate the market for pitching. Security when young is one thing, but they cost themselves truckloads of $$. Keep the pitching and keep attempting to build around it. Maybe it means the opposite: a great opportunity to, (dare I suggest something that the Sox haven't done in a decade+) sell high.
December 1, 201510 yr Only 2 options I see this team being good in the next year or 2 and sustaining that success into the future 1. Trade 1 of Sale, Q, Rodon 2. JR opens the payroll up to 140+ million And I wouldn't count on option 2...
December 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 04:52 PM) The White Sox signed David Price!? Then why is this here? I'm lucky I heard the news before logging on. I would've assumed (by the title and this being PHT) that we signed Price and I would've had a heart attack Mods, maybe one of you could add "Boston signs" to the title or something? Anyway, that deal will be biting them in the ass in a few years.
December 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 04:48 PM) Maybe it means the opposite: a great opportunity to, (dare I suggest something that the Sox haven't done in a decade+) sell high. Yeah this was my thought. Sox could have a real good opportunity to cash in on Quintana after teams see this deal.
December 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 11:04 PM) Yeah this was my thought. Sox could have a real good opportunity to cash in on Quintana after teams see this deal. it will all depends on the players coming back on the rtn for the trade. there are only several team that can really sweeten that idea of a trade.
December 1, 201510 yr Author Well if the Dodgers lose out on Grienke and the Cubs don't come away with a top of the rotation starter, perhaps they will be more anxious to grossly overpay for a WSox pitcher, but I doubt the WSox go that route esp now unless it is a Hershel Walker-esque, Vikings-Cowboys deal in terms of lopsidedness...
December 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (bruni @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 12:15 AM) Well if the Dodgers lose out on Grienke and the Cubs don't come away with a top of the rotation starter, perhaps they will be more anxious to grossly overpay for a WSox pitcher, but I doubt the WSox go that route esp now unless it is a Hershel Walker-esque, Vikings-Cowboys deal in terms of lopsidedness... the dodgers can let zach walk to the gaints. talk about the rivalry. the northside will sign shark if all else fail. or maybe cueto.
December 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 05:18 PM) the dodgers can let zach walk to the gaints. talk about the rivalry. the northside will sign shark if all else fail. or maybe cueto. Either one of these will happen for the Cubs I think.
December 1, 201510 yr Sad things about deals like this is that it's really hard for me to imagine Sale wanting to stay with the Sox if they aren't winning and aren't paying him market value. You know sure as s*** the Sox won't pay him what he deserves.
December 1, 201510 yr Like others have said, this deal makes Sale & Quintana's trade value sky rocket. They are not trading either of them.
December 1, 201510 yr Although it's probably not likely, I could see a team getting desperate and overpaying for Sale or Q.
December 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 05:36 PM) Like others have said, this deal makes Sale & Quintana's trade value sky rocket. They are not trading either of them. 1000% agree. The Sox cannot afford to trade such cheap pitching and no team will offer up full value so I expect Sale and Q to fulfill their contracts. That makes me a happy Sox fan.
December 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 05:46 PM) 1000% agree. The Sox cannot afford to trade such cheap pitching and no team will offer up full value so I expect Sale and Q to fulfill their contracts. That makes me a happy Sox fan. The big question I'm wondering is if they'll stay on the Sox after those deals are over.
December 1, 201510 yr Boston is already regretting Hanley and Panda deals. They will regret this in a couple seasons also.
December 1, 201510 yr I think he should be pretty good for a few seasons. I just wonder if he ever gets the postseason problem figured out. It has to be on his mind by now.
December 2, 201510 yr QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) The big question I'm wondering is if they'll stay on the Sox after those deals are over. As long as the Sox keep doing a good job of scouting and developing pitching, I could honestly care less. Let em both go to FA and cash in, as long as its another team paying the obscene price.
December 2, 201510 yr The Sox have to open the pocket book and sign Heyward. Our pitching is cheap for the rest of the decade. Spend some dough on some premium bats. Heyward is the least risky FA signing one can get just based on his age. Gotta spend some dough and compete or Abreu is gonna opt out and walk.
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.