It will be a little sting but I'll guess that it's Jacob May and Jordan Guerrero.

Just a guess but I think the Sox are looking to include Reddick. That's alot of outfielders Oakland is looking at and the Sox have a need for a real RF with defense. Reddick is left handed with pop and could hit behind Abreu. The Sox could fill two noles in one trade. Reddick would keep the Sox from spending big on a FA OF bat thus saving a '16 draft pick and could look at extending both Lawrie and especially Reddick since he's a FA after '16.

 

I'm just speculating but the trade history between these two teams justifies the speculation.

Which is why they shouldn't get Reddick.

Another rent? Lord help us.

Yea, yea, they'll extend him, they'll flip him...and they never do either.

And saving draft choices isn't a savings if you are dealing away your prospects, which is what would happen.

The clown gming has got to stop.

And the love affairs with the As never end up well.

See how the Cubs did it -they actually had a deal worked out for Castro before submitting the bid for Zobrist.

Edited December 9, 201510 yr by GreenSox

Which is why they shouldn't get Reddick.

Another rent? Lord help us.

Yea, yea, they'll extend him, they'll flip him...and they never do either.

The clown gming has got to stop.

See how the Cubs did it -they actually had a deal worked out for Castro before submitting the bid for Zobrist.

Why do you always criticize other people's ideas, yet you never throw anything out there yourself?

 

I don't get it.

"Death, taxes, and a White Sox/A's trade"

I thought Lawrie used to be an elite prospect. Didn't know he wasn't even top-50.

His defense at 3B is an improvement over Gillaspie/Olt, and his offense, despite the strikeouts, is an upgrade. Depending on the return, I'm not too upset about this.

Which is why they shouldn't get Reddick.

Another rent? Lord help us.

Yea, yea, they'll extend him, they'll flip him...and they never do either.

And saving draft choices isn't a savings if you are dealing away your prospects, which is what would happen.

The clown gming has got to stop.

And the love affairs with the As never end up well.

See how the Cubs did it -they actually had a deal worked out for Castro before submitting the bid for Zobrist.

 

and the sox can only play a hand full of those prospects, what to do with the others??

 

isn't the minor league system is suppose to be use to fill in needs of the parent team??? whether that is to use them via trade or not??

 

this is nothing but a batch work that needs to fix the house, that was neglected for yrs.

Why do you always criticize other people's ideas, yet you never throw anything out there yourself?

 

I don't get it.

 

Oh he throws ideas out. They always involve trading Sale Q Abreu Eaton and playing Trayce "2 great weeks and mediocre minor league career" Thompson in center every day.

Edited December 9, 201510 yr by soxfan2014

Me too, although I'm leery of what it would cost the Sox in terms of prospects. Beane trading a player (Reddick) going into their last season before FA would be a very Beane-like thing to do.

 

There's always Montas....I know we shouldn't be looking to trade a power arm like his, but if he isn't going to have a rotation spot this year and we aren't going to commit to him in the bullpen then I think we should seriously consider moving him now while he has a good amount of value. Never know what could happen if we let him sit in the minors for 1 more year, plus we still have Adams and Fullmer behind him. But you're absolutely right. Getting a guy like Reddick would be a much better idea than spending 100M+ and losing a draft pick on Upton.

 

Does Montas, Avi, May, and Guerrero get us Reddick and Lawrie? May/Guerrero could be changed to their liking, but no one inside our top 8 prospects.

Edited December 9, 201510 yr by TheFutureIsNear

"Death, taxes, and a White Sox/A's trade"

 

Why do you always criticize other people's ideas, yet you never throw anything out there yourself?

 

I don't get it.

 

He does. He just doesnt mention players. He wants a Upton Thompson Avi OF

Which is why they shouldn't get Reddick.

Another rent? Lord help us.

Yea, yea, they'll extend him, they'll flip him...and they never do either.

And saving draft choices isn't a savings if you are dealing away your prospects, which is what would happen.

The clown gming has got to stop.

And the love affairs with the As never end up well.

See how the Cubs did it -they actually had a deal worked out for Castro before submitting the bid for Zobrist.

 

You mean the Cubs don't plan on playing mediocre players at every position just because they aren't heroes? Weird

Why do you always criticize other people's ideas, yet you never throw anything out there yourself?

 

I don't get it.

I do.

You just don't like what I throw out there.

Acquire young talent. Don't trade for rents, career years and mediocre veterans.

What the Sox are doing has a 100% failure rate.

I have no interest in the average Lawrie, except on the cheap.

 

This team is not competing in 2016, no matter how much fawning Williams and Hahn do at the feet of Billy Beane. No matter how many of our young players we hand over to him.

 

And if the price I heard is correct, it's an outrage.

Edited December 9, 201510 yr by GreenSox

Why do you always criticize other people's ideas, yet you never throw anything out there yourself?

 

I don't get it.

Eh..it's his shtick. Whatever. I like coming up with different ideas, crazy ideas and have fun in the offseason. Some people on here take it way too serious. I like the Sox and this is an awesome board. I'm on it because it's the best on the Internet. I like the posters on here too.

I do.

You just don't like what I throw out there.

Acquire young talent. Don't trade for rents, career years and mediocre veterans.

What the Sox are doing has a 100% failure rate.

 

This team is not competing in 2016, no matter how much fawning Williams and Hahn do at the feet of Billy Beane. No matter how many of our young players we hand over to him.

 

And if the price I heard is correct, it's an outrage.

 

there are one major flaw in that whole point. no offense.

 

but it is the success of the norhtside.

 

the bottom line is $$$$ for the owners.

Garcia and Lawrie put up very similar power numbers last year.

.257/13/59 for Garcia, .260/16/60 for Lawrie

I will say that I was pissed we didn't get Donaldsom last offseason...here's to an MVP breakout season from Lawrie! We're due for some good luck lol

I do.

You just don't like what I throw out there.

Acquire young talent. Don't trade for rents, career years and mediocre veterans.

What the Sox are doing has a 100% failure rate.

 

This team is not competing in 2016, no matter how much fawning Williams and Hahn do at the feet of Billy Beane. No matter how many of our young players we hand over to him.

 

And if the price I heard is correct, it's an outrage.

 

False. Look at what the Red Sox did when they won their last WS. Dempster, Peavy, Victorino, Napoli, Lackey.

Eh..it's his shtick. Whatever. I like coming up with different ideas, crazy ideas and have fun in the offseason. Some people on here take it way too serious. I like the Sox and this is an awesome board. I'm on it because it's the best on the Internet. I like the posters on here too.

 

thank you, you are too kind.

Garcia and Lawrie put up very similar power numbers last year.

.257/13/59 for Garcia, .260/16/60 for Lawrie

How many were hit in Oakland? I'm on my way to work so I can't look it up. I will look it up later because I'm curious.I think he can hit 20 with us realistically.

Edited December 9, 201510 yr by SouthSideSale

Garcia and Lawrie put up very similar power numbers last year.

.257/13/59 for Garcia, .260/16/60 for Lawrie

The difference is that Lawrie played half his games at a pitchers park and he also plays a more important position on the field.

Edited December 9, 201510 yr by ChiSoxFanMike

Garcia and Lawrie put up very similar power numbers last year.

.257/13/59 for Garcia, .260/16/60 for Lawrie

 

Difference is one played in a pitcher friendly ballpark. Looking at his Toronto numbers if he had stayed healthy it looks like he could have had some years where he did a lot more damage than he did.

I do.

You just don't like what I throw out there.

Acquire young talent. Don't trade for rents, career years and mediocre veterans.

What the Sox are doing has a 100% failure rate.

I have no interest in the average Lawrie, except on the cheap.

 

This team is not competing in 2016, no matter how much fawning Williams and Hahn do at the feet of Billy Beane. No matter how many of our young players we hand over to him.

 

And if the price I heard is correct, it's an outrage.

Lawrie was a former top prospect who is 1 year older than Trayce Thompson. Has breakout potential. He might not do it, but he's certainly a better gamble than some of the others.

Garcia and Lawrie put up very similar power numbers last year.

.257/13/59 for Garcia, .260/16/60 for Lawrie

 

can he play 3b next season and hit at least 15 hrs???

There's always Montas....I know we shouldn't be looking to trade a power arm like his, but if he isn't going to have a rotation spot this year and we aren't going to commit to him in the bullpen then I think we should seriously consider moving him now while he has a good amount of value. Never know what could happen if we let him sit in the minors for 1 more year, plus we still have Adams and Fullmer behind him. But you're absolutely right. Getting a guy like Reddick would be a much better idea than spending 100M+ and losing a draft pick on Upton.

 

Does Montas, Avi, May, and Guerrero get us Reddick and Lawrie? May/Guerrero could be changed to their liking, but no one inside our top 8 prospects.

Montas to the A's? Maybe the next Frank De Los Santos?

 

I really have no idea how to speculate on the package for both Lawrie and Reddick but I don't think your idea is far off and sounds pretty close to me.

 

A defensive OF of Eaton LF, Thompson CF and Reddick RF sounds really good to me. Huge upgrade over last season.