January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 04:26 PM) Gulp.... https://mobile.twitter.com/masnRoch/status/...387617805709312 If this is true, it would make sense why it seems like Hahn has shifted his focus
January 16, 201610 yr Mets are offering three years and $60 million to Cespedes. The White Sox would have to offer at least $70-75 to get him to leave NY.
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 10:26 AM) Gulp.... https://mobile.twitter.com/masnRoch/status/...387617805709312 Then good luck to him. Now that Davis is signed, there should be clarity in the market for Cespedes. It's on him and his agency to get the best offers now, and pick one. And if the Sox don't match up, so be it. They have other options that will still be better than Garcia. Mostly, I think fans want Cespedes just because it feels like a win and it's not about what he actually brings as a player. He's good, but he's not that good...and don't discount that he could be a player that's part of the problem if things go bad in April and May. Then everyone will hate the guy and regret having him for 3-4 more years.
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 10:26 AM) Gulp.... https://mobile.twitter.com/masnRoch/status/...387617805709312 Wow, well I hope he enjoys his time off this upcoming season. No one is going to give him a contract bigger than Davis.
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 04:31 PM) Mets are offering three years and $60 million to Cespedes. The White Sox would have to offer at least $70-75 to get him to leave NY. Again you are just making up numbers
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 04:31 PM) Then good luck to him. Now that Davis is signed, there should be clarity in the market for Cespedes. It's on him and his agency to get the best offers now, and pick one. And if the Sox don't match up, so be it. They have other options that will still be better than Garcia. Mostly, I think fans want Cespedes just because it feels like a win and it's not about what he actually brings as a player. He's good, but he's not that good...and don't discount that he could be a player that's part of the problem if things go bad in April and May. Then everyone will hate the guy and regret having him for 3-4 more years. Incredible post
January 16, 201610 yr Then the real competition is with Detroit, St. Louis and LAA for Fowler, assuming Upton to Texas.
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (Saufley @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 05:22 PM) Torches will only light up the Chicago skyline on the southside of the city. first, 5 yrs of Cespedes too many yrs, that will make him 36 when the contract ends. i think 4yrs is just about right. however i am already acknowledging the fact that the team will not invest in anymore if any fa's..... that is a ship that has moved into another horizon. however, i wonder about some minor trades. i mean they can do that, at least...... but will they??? going into the sox convention, there will be many media news of how the sox couldn't spend b/c of budgetary reasons, or no money or any kind of b/s. i wonder if there will be any fans who will have the balls to address this there????
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 04:33 PM) That tweet reeks of Orioles justifying overspend on Davis I did think of that also
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 05:33 PM) Then the real competition is with Detroit, St. Louis and LAA for Fowler, assuming Upton to Texas. Cubs are still a possibility for Fowler if they make a trade with Soler in it
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 10:33 AM) Again you are just making up numbers I guess if the Post and Daily News are just making things up, too. I'm just following the three year nonsense we keep hearing over and over again.
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 05:31 PM) Then good luck to him. Now that Davis is signed, there should be clarity in the market for Cespedes. It's on him and his agency to get the best offers now, and pick one. And if the Sox don't match up, so be it. They have other options that will still be better than Garcia. Mostly, I think fans want Cespedes just because it feels like a win and it's not about what he actually brings as a player. He's good, but he's not that good...and don't discount that he could be a player that's part of the problem if things go bad in April and May. Then everyone will hate the guy and regret having him for 3-4 more years. i really don't care one way or the other if the sox really dive into the fa's market, i would prefer the trade route with some of the players that are rumored to be available..... and no, i do not mean any of of Col players.
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 04:35 PM) I guess if the Post and Daily News are just making things up, too. I'm just following the three year nonsense we keep hearing over and over again. You have no idea how much more Sox would have to pay
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 10:18 AM) If they weren't going to upgrade the outfield, trading Thompson to a team that doesn't even need him made no sense. Fowler would have been measured against a 1.5 war in terms of upgrade rather than Avi. And, if the improvement's so great (Frazier vs. Saladino), then why are we content with that same player at SS? The Dodgers not needing an OF'er means absolutely nothing to the sox. Frazier upgrade over Saladino is much larger than the slight downgrade between Saladino over Alexei.
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 05:40 PM) I hope we do sign him, but I think he goes back to the Mets. i am really at an impasse with this, yeah i want him and it would not cost a pick..... but i think i would like a couple of key players from 2 team that makes more sense. but what the hay, what in hades do i know.
January 16, 201610 yr @masnRoch Told deal with Chris Davis is for less money than Cespedes was seeking #orioles
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 05:48 PM) Sox have nothing left to trade. Any upgrades really need to be via FA i can see what you are saying and i will respect your opinion. however i still think that sox do have some assets to trade from, even if it mean trading some of the prized prospects. the window of opportunity is now.... not 2 or 3 yrs from now. make smart trades not desperate trades.
January 16, 201610 yr If Cespedes wants davis money he be sitting out for the season then no team will pay him that.
January 16, 201610 yr Just using WAR for an example. Cespedes has a cumulative WAR of 15.8 during his four seasons in the MLB. Over the same time frame Davis has a 15.1 WAR. There could be some truth to the report that Cespedes is looking for as much or more than Davis and might back up suspicions about Cespedes waiting for Davis to sign. If this is the case, I'm glad the Sox FO have backed off Cespedes and are looking at other alternatives.
January 16, 201610 yr MLBN really has ragged Cespedes for all the movement he has been involved with the last couple years. They keep mentioning it is a red flag. How come the didn't say the same thing about Shark?
January 16, 201610 yr QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 11:17 AM) Is this the biggest thread in the history of this forum? Tanaka edit- nevermind, this just passed that, but there still may be bigger ones Edited January 16, 201610 yr by Jose Abreu
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