December 19, 201510 yr QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 04:25 PM) No because he has no value. Keep him one more year. And do what with him? Play him at Charlotte? He has no place on the major league team if they plan on winning something
December 19, 201510 yr If they sign Upton or Cespedes, there is zero chance they sign Austin Jackson. Austin Jackson makes some sense if they go cheaper. He probably is a lot like Trayce Thompson defensively. His hitting is a question but he has had some good seasons. He hit well at USCF last year with the Mariners, and then was soon traded. Edited December 19, 201510 yr by Dick Allen
December 19, 201510 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 04:28 PM) If they sign Upton or Cespedes, there is zero chance they sign Austin Jackson. And that's fine. That's what I'd do though. They still need a player that keeps LaRoche on the bench vs LHP and it may as well be an OF so that Melky can DH
December 19, 201510 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 04:30 PM) And that's fine. That's what I'd do though. They still need a player that keeps LaRoche on the bench vs LHP and it may as well be an OF so that Melky can DH Melky struggled vs. lefties last year as well. Not like LaRoche, but not very good.
December 19, 201510 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 04:33 PM) Melky struggled vs. lefties last year as well. Not like LaRoche, but not very good. I know. Which is why getting 2 RHH OF's makes sense.
December 19, 201510 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:28 PM) If they sign Upton or Cespedes, there is zero chance they sign Austin Jackson. Austin Jackson makes some sense if they go cheaper. He probably is a lot like Trayce Thompson defensively. His hitting is a question but he has had some good seasons. He hit well at USCF last year with the Mariners, and then was soon traded. If we moved LaRoche I wouldn't mind signing Cespedes and Jackson. Improve the defense in the outfield: Eaton Jackson Cespedes
December 19, 201510 yr Jackson's OBP has really declined, the last two years; .311 and .308. I'd rather just play Shuck Eaton and Upton, if Melky is moved to DH. I read that it will take at least $15-18 million for a couple of seasons to lock him up. Remember, he is a Boras client. I didn't check to see if he received a Q. O., which is another consideration.
December 19, 201510 yr QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 04:53 PM) If we moved LaRoche I wouldn't mind signing Cespedes and Jackson. Improve the defense in the outfield: Eaton Jackson Cespedes Even if they don't move LaRoche. Jackson or someone like him could be the 4th OF.
December 19, 201510 yr QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:06 PM) Jackson's OBP has really declined, the last two years; .311 and .308. I'd rather just play Shuck Eaton and Upton, if Melky is moved to DH. I read that it will take at least $15-18 million for a couple of seasons to lock him up. Remember, he is a Boras client. I didn't check to see if he received a Q. O., which is another consideration. Jackson didn't receive a QO and wasn't eligible for one. Shuck is also LH though which doesn't really solve anything.
December 19, 201510 yr Someone on one of the CSN shows was talking about how Cespedes absolutely strikes fear into the pitchers when he's at the dish. I didn't know that but I like it.
December 19, 201510 yr QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:19 PM) Someone on one of the CSN shows was talking about how Cespedes absolutely strikes fear into the pitchers when he's at the dish. I didn't know that but I like it. It was SportsTalk Live, and it was the guy that also predicted the Bears are going to release Cutler next season and Sign Peyton Manning to a 1 year deal.
December 19, 201510 yr This market is starting to look like the market when the Sox were able to get Abreu. Boston, the Yankees, Dodgers all not really looking for OF. You have to figure the Cardinals will sign one of them. Washington needs a CF. If the Tigers and Angels are truly out, the earlier estimates of the contracts these OFs receive are going to look inflated.Very inflated.
December 19, 201510 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:26 PM) It was SportsTalk Live, and it was the guy that also predicted the Bears are going to release Cutler next season and Sign Peyton Manning to a 1 year deal. Haha oh my lord. Who is that? Jason Goch? That guy says dumb s***.
December 19, 201510 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:29 PM) Haha oh my lord. Who is that? Jason Goch? That guy says dumb s***. http://www.csnchicago.com/show/sportstalk-live It's the first guy seen after Garfein in this clip. I don't think they talk about Cutler in this clip, but I hate this guy and everything he says is just completely dumb.
December 20, 201510 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:31 PM) http://www.csnchicago.com/show/sportstalk-live It's the first guy seen after Garfein in this clip. I don't think they talk about Cutler in this clip, but I hate this guy and everything he says is just completely dumb. That is Peter Brown.
December 20, 201510 yr QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 06:50 PM) Never even heard of him. Who is he employed by? Yahoo radio or something like that. He was in Milwaukee for years, I think Cleveland as well. Your typical windbag. Every team sucks, he knows the easy fix.
December 20, 201510 yr QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:19 PM) Someone on one of the CSN shows was talking about how Cespedes absolutely strikes fear into the pitchers when he's at the dish. I didn't know that but I like it. Well duh... so does every good/powerful hitter.
December 20, 201510 yr QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 08:32 PM) Well duh... so does every good/powerful hitter. Ahh thanks.
December 20, 201510 yr ESPN's Buster Olney reported the Baltimore Orioles have added Cespedes to their list of outfield targets. Don't know if that's leverage with the Davis talks but we know Balt has the money. The Orioles are definitely a team to watch while we hope for one of the big three.
December 20, 201510 yr I do not doubt Baltimore's interest in Cespedes. They seem pretty frustrated with Boras and Davis.
December 20, 201510 yr The problem with these guys is none give the indication that they will be consistent for the duration or most of the duration of the contract. Gordon seems like he would be the best, but he's not the "slugger" for which Kenny Williams is on his eternal sojourn. (don't remind Kenny that to win the WS he dumped a slugger and shored-up OF defense).
December 20, 201510 yr QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 08:46 AM) The problem with these guys is none give the indication that they will be consistent for the duration or most of the duration of the contract. Gordon seems like he would be the best, but he's not the "slugger" for which Kenny Williams is on his eternal sojourn. (don't remind Kenny that to win the WS he dumped a slugger and shored-up OF defense). Dude, you are beyond delusional. The 2005 White Sox had solid power or better at almost all positions and hit 200 HRs. I'm not sure how comparing those teams or players are relevant at all. Edited December 20, 201510 yr by Chicago White Sox
December 20, 201510 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 09:29 AM) Dude, you are beyond delusional. The 2005 White Sox had solid power or better at almost all positions and hit 200 HRs. I'm not sure how comparing those teams or players are relevant at all. I also don't get how Justin Upton can't be considered pretty consistent.
December 20, 201510 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 09:29 AM) Dude, you are beyond delusional. The 2005 White Sox had solid power or better at almost all positions and hit 200 HRs. I'm not sure how comparing those teams or players are relevant at all. Sure they hit homers...but not with swing and miss low obp sluggers, fawned over hereon. Sox had players across the board who who could hit. They also played impeccable defense and dumped a slugger at a steep discount to shore up his and other positions.
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