February 23, 201610 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 05:40 PM) Very true. I am extremely disappointed the Sox couldn't or wouldn't go to this level. I still think they have another move they will make, but if they don't, and Avi fails, they deserve all the grief they are going to get. Agree with all the above.
February 23, 201610 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 11:43 PM) I've said this in a few threads, but if they keep Avi and LaRoche as starters and the team tanks again, I see no reason for Hahn and Ventura to keep their jobs. ref the bold, not unless he is doing and following the directive of the owners.
February 23, 201610 yr With Eaton's shoulder not being close to 100 percent in terms of throwing, Austin Jackson becomes a more important target.
February 23, 201610 yr QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 12:49 AM) Everything's fine. Why upgrade one of the worst defensive OFs in baseball? Maybe Avi will try a more upright stance on defense
February 23, 201610 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 05:51 PM) Maybe Avi will try a more upright stance on defense Let's just play Melky and Eaton out there instead. Let's try some weird 2 man OF defense. Edited February 23, 201610 yr by Baron
February 23, 201610 yr QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 12:52 AM) Let's just play Melky and Eaton out there instead. Let's try some weird 2 man OF defense. Eaton might need a cutoff man to throw to second
February 23, 201610 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 11:51 PM) Maybe Avi will try a more upright stance on defense i am sorry, but that is one hell of a funny line. bravo. notworthy.gif
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 06:49 PM) Everything's fine. Why upgrade one of the worst defensive OFs in baseball? "One of the worst"? Is there a worse defensive OF in all of baseball all the way around than our's right now?
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 06:45 PM) "One of the worst"? Is there a worse defensive OF in all of baseball all the way around than our's right now? 4th worst rated OF defense last season: http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...=&players=0
February 24, 201610 yr Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein Sources tell me the #WhiteSox made a "firm, serious offer" to Dexter Fowler, but he opted for more money, not budging from his demands.
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (Sockin @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein Sources tell me the #WhiteSox made a "firm, serious offer" to Dexter Fowler, but he opted for more money, not budging from his demands. So 3/$33 million was not budging from his demands? Great source Bernstein.
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 09:58 AM) So 3/$33 million was not budging from his demands? Great source Bernstein. So guessing Sox were in the 2 years/$20M range.
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 06:49 PM) Everything's fine. Why upgrade one of the worst defensive OFs in baseball?
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (Sockin @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein Sources tell me the #WhiteSox made a "firm, serious offer" to Dexter Fowler, but he opted for more money, not budging from his demands. At least it says that they are still interested in upgrading the OF though.
February 24, 201610 yr "Firm, serious offer" makes no indication that the offer was actually competitive. I can firmly and seriously offer someone 40% of asking price.
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (chunk23 @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 10:36 AM) "Firm, serious offer" makes no indication that the offer was actually competitive. I can firmly and seriously offer someone 40% of asking price. They established a price that they were willing to pay along with the forfeiture of a top 30 draft pick. Baltimore offered more. He went to Baltimore. You are entitled to think that the Sox made a mistake. I disagree with that though.
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (southside hitman @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) Jesse SanchezVerified account @JesseSanchezMLB 8m8 minutes ago There were 25 clubs in attendance at showcase for Cuban players Yadiel Hernandez, Yanio Perez & Alejandro Rivero in Mexico City today. There's no way the Sox were one of the 5 teams that didn't show up...Right?....Right?!
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 11:14 AM) So guessing Sox were in the 2 years/$20M range. The Sox 0-4 now this offseason waiting for the market for free agent outfielders to fall to them.
February 24, 201610 yr One thing I want to point out--Sox are already committed for 3+ years to Melky and Eaton. If you lock up another OF right now, you are out of the market for any OF available by trade or FA after the 2016 season. Maybe, once they didn't get Gordon/Cespedes, they decided they like what may be available in a year better than Fowler or Jackson. You can't sign Fowler for 3/$35 and then go and sign somebody else in a year.
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) One thing I want to point out--Sox are already committed for 3+ years to Melky and Eaton. If you lock up another OF right now, you are out of the market for any OF available by trade or FA after the 2016 season. Maybe, once they didn't get Gordon/Cespedes, they decided they like what may be available in a year better than Fowler or Jackson. You can't sign Fowler for 3/$35 and then go and sign somebody else in a year. Not necessarily. There are always trades and the DH.
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) One thing I want to point out--Sox are already committed for 3+ years to Melky and Eaton. If you lock up another OF right now, you are out of the market for any OF available by trade or FA after the 2016 season. Maybe, once they didn't get Gordon/Cespedes, they decided they like what may be available in a year better than Fowler or Jackson. You can't sign Fowler for 3/$35 and then go and sign somebody else in a year. While I agree that they were only going to break the bank for Gordon or Cespedes, I don't think commitments to Eaton and Melky really hindered going after somebody else. Remember our DH spot is opening up after this year and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Melky move there for the 2017 season.
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) One thing I want to point out--Sox are already committed for 3+ years to Melky and Eaton. If you lock up another OF right now, you are out of the market for any OF available by trade or FA after the 2016 season. Maybe, once they didn't get Gordon/Cespedes, they decided they like what may be available in a year better than Fowler or Jackson. You can't sign Fowler for 3/$35 and then go and sign somebody else in a year. I just think that they don't think Fowler is that good.
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 12:38 PM) I just think that they don't think Fowler is that good. Then they should have spent more money on one of the better players.
February 24, 201610 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) Then they should have spent more money on one of the better players. ^
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