Maybe its about time we hired Nolan Ryan as a consultant to toughen Robin up.

From what's come out, the respect the team has for him is what saved a boycott

It was also said that was overblown.

 

He needs to get them unified to play baseball. He clearly is not doing that.

All this because of a f***ing 14 year old boy.

Bill Shaikin ‏@BillShaikin 8m8 minutes ago

Eaton says La Roche told him he did have contractual agreement for son to be in clubhouse.

 

So LaRoche and/or LaRoche surrogates have been throwing spitballs at the Sox via Twitter for the past two days, yet this is the first that we're hearing about it? Does not compute.

 

And why would Kenny flat out lie (per the Sun-Times link)?

 

And honestly, with Sale, get Friedman on the phone if he keeps this up. Put Eaton on the market as well.

 

Edit: I'm not saying at this exact moment, but if they keep going.

 

A handful of players on this team area embarrassingly immature.

 

 

I don't think "this" was mishandled.

 

More like Robin has no control of his clubhouse.

 

Reason #45465332 he should not be the manager of this team.

 

For sure.

 

There are disagreements in locker rooms every year. They don't get out like this.

 

Get rid of Kenny and Robin and lay down some rules and build a culture. This is a free for all. I can't remember anything this bad since the beer and chicken stuff with the Red Sox.

I've been critical of Hawk Harrelson for a few years, but yeah, I'd love to hear him right now.

Bill Shaikin ‏@BillShaikin 8m8 minutes ago

Eaton says La Roche told him he did have contractual agreement for son to be in clubhouse.

 

1) Kenny said there wasn't. So now someone is lying, but we can't take either for fact.

 

2) The clause could very well say "Drake LaRoche is welcome in the clubhouse", not "Drake LaRoche has unlimited access to White Sox facilities"

I was hoping someone would toss this in here.

 

My dad and I talked about how if a player like Pedro Cerrano existed and lived in the clubhouse, would LaRoche be tolerant of his having an altar in his locker?

 

Let's remember the Sox were pretty accommodating of LaRoche when they gave him a faith day that allowed him to bring in a homophobic hate-monger that he pals around with. Or how they gave his kid a locker.

 

To act like the Sox were hating on LaRoche's values is hysterical.

 

Just trying to keep it lite around here.

 

I agree 100%. The Sox have been more than accommodating to LaRoche and his son but he needs to realise there are 24 other players in the locker room with him. I cannot imagine how difficult it is for management and coaches to try and get all 25 guys to gel together as well as be accepting of one another's opinions and beliefs.

 

Just speculation on my part but I think it's possible that LaRoche's beliefs could have rubbed some folks the wrong way if he came across anything like Eddie Harris. His strong beliefs in his religion is one of the factors that could have been mentioned along with his son being around all the time when some players went to KW. This is just my own speculation with absolutely nothing to back it up though.

 

There's much more to this story than what's been leaked so far and I think it's important for all of us fans to keep that in mind as we discuss the issue.

 

Personal side note: Chris Sale, STFU and pitch, not b****!

Amazing how people respond to a fellow who stand up for himself and what he believes in rather than roll over

Well this just won't go away. This is so f***ing stupid. Kid should have never been allowed in the first place.

From what's come out, the respect the team has for him is what saved a boycott

 

Yep, hard-asses tend to not make it as managers anymore (unless you're Mike Scioscia and your owner loves and will never fire you). You have to get players to like you to succeed as a manager these days. Which is why it was logical for Kenny to bring down the hammer.

 

Thankfully most of the Sox players are keeping their mouths shut. Sale and Eaton need to follow suit, shut up, and play baseball.

This reminds me of that Gawker situation a few months ago, where a reporter published a completely terrible story, and the head of gawker media forced it to be taken down, to which the reporters editors all went nuts.

 

To the outside world, they were all being completely stupid, but they were all adamant "no, they are terrible why can't you all see! Why can't you see?!?!"

WTF!

 

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 3m3 minutes ago

Sale: 'We were a steam engine going ahead and kind of derailed it. There was absolutely no problem in here & [KW] kind of created a problem'

I can't post tweets from work but Frazier told Bruce Levine that no players went to management about Drake LaRoche. Players are also meeting with Reinsdorf within next few days.

Wow, Sale calling for KW to be fired it sounds like

 

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 4m4 minutes ago

Chris Sale: The wrong guys walked out of that room, meaning teammate Adam LaRoche, and not #WhiteSox VP Ken Williams

So what's the lie?

 

I think someone mentioned a guess a while back --- ten pages back, 2 minutes ago

It's ridiculous where this has gotten to. Kinda entertaining though. Better than a Quintana no-decision.

What would Fisk do?...besides drive into a cornfield.

beat the crap out of someone whether it was management or player if they were in the wrong.

Yep, hard-asses tend to not make it as managers anymore (unless you're Mike Scioscia and your owner loves and will never fire you). You have to get players to like you to succeed as a manager these days. Which is why it was logical for Kenny to bring down the hammer.

And that's fine. Great.

 

Now Robin needs to say some s*** like "How about we channel all this anger and frustration towards winning games for Adam and Drake, instead of on Twitter."

 

Whatever. I don't care. Just make them shut up. For the sake of the poor kid, even.

kinda obvious here but yea, AL is easily worst FA signing in Sox recent history and it's not even close at this point.

Wow, Sale calling for KW to be fired it sounds like

 

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 4m4 minutes ago

Chris Sale: The wrong guys walked out of that room, meaning teammate Adam LaRoche, and not #WhiteSox VP Ken Williams

Oh s***, Chris.

He didn't have total access. Here is a story about him from last June. Even Conor Gillaspie likes the kid. It stated there were times his access was limited.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0620-story.html

 

and that is everyone pov, turn it down on the access .

He didn't have total access. Here is a story about him from last June. Even Conor Gillaspie likes the kid. It stated there were times his access was limited.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0620-story.html

 

There's that quote I was looking for earlier:

 

The only downside to the arrangement is LaRoche can't bring Montana, an 11-year-old softball and volleyball player, into the clubhouse as he does Drake because she's a girl.

 

"It's unfortunate she can't come," LaRoche said. "That's thousands of hours of time we missed together, and Drake and I get to spend it together. I try to make an effort when I am home, have off days or have evenings, to do stuff with her and spend time with her. It's a struggle for sure."

Wouldn't that be something (just throwing this out there) if KW did this on his own and then leaked to the press that players went to him?