You know it was Sale that wanted to boycott the game the other day. Wasn't his turn to go. That is happening tomorrow, right?

 

yep, definitely him and Eaton. On the other hand, it was reported he was one of the guys that changed his mind in order to support Ventura

Huh?

 

in the article he laroche has said that he lost 1000 of hour not having his daughter with him and he tries to make that up.

 

a 1000 hrs....

Yep

 

 

 

Unless the Sox are rebuilding, that's not going to happen. Sale and Eaton both know it, which is why they feel free to say whatever the hell they want.

 

I seriously hope that somebody like Abreu steps up and confronts them.

It doesn't have to be rebuilding if the return is right. It is possible for the Sox to contend without Sale and especially Eaton.

Something so stupid and minor right before the season. This is going to be an interesting start to the season now.

Avila, Rollins, and Frazier need to call a players only meeting, and say what's what.

Edited March 18, 20169 yr by flavum

The most infuriating thing about this is that LaRoche clearly WANTS to retire and spend more time with his kids. Otherwise, he would've simply filed a grievance with the MLBPA, shipped Drake off to live with his mother, and continued playing. And guys like Sale and Eaton and burning down the clubhouse to support a guy who doesn't want to be their teammate anymore. It's ridiculous on so many levels.

 

It doesn't have to be rebuilding if the return is right. It is possible for the Sox to contend without Sale and especially Eaton.

 

It would definitely hurt but if you aren't winning with these guys, there's something up.

so Nightengale is making it sound like it is Sox players asking the mlbpa to file a grievance, and not necessarily LaRoche.

 

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 15m15 minutes ago

The #Whitesox players say that LaRoche has made up his mind and will not reconsider. He's done with baseball

If it turns out it isnt in his contract, since Eaton now claims it is, are you going to admit LaRoche is wrong here?

If it isn't in the contract, and there was no handshake agreement, absolutely.

 

 

 

For the love of God, stop with the he quit on them. It is exactly what 99.99% of this board wanted him to do all winter. Now he's a quitter. Seriously?

WE wanted him to quit. I'm saying he quit on his teammates, and they're backing him and his decision. And yes, he is a quitter.

Fulmer is getting quite an education through all of this.

If it isn't in the contract, and there was no handshake agreement, absolutely.

Well Eaton said he was told by LaRoche that it was in the contract so there would be no need for a hand shake deal. If it isnt in the contract that means either Eaton or LaRoche is lying(likely LaRoche) so why should we believe him if he said there was a handshake deal after that?

so Nightengale is making it sound like it is Sox players asking the mlbpa to file a grievance, and not necessarily LaRoche.

 

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 15m15 minutes ago

The #Whitesox players say that LaRoche has made up his mind and will not reconsider. He's done with baseball

 

Based off that tweet? How are you coming to that conclusion?

WE wanted him to quit. I'm saying he quit on his teammates, and they're backing him and his decision. And yes, he is a quitter.

He chose his family over his job. It happens. It isn't Michael Jordan "retiring" so he can go drive his kids around. This guy actually walks the walk and talks the talk when it comes to his kids.

Well Eaton said he was told by LaRoche that it was in the contract so there would be no need for a hand shake deal. If it isnt in the contract that means either Eaton or LaRoche is lying(likely LaRoche) so why should we believe him if he said there was a handshake deal after that?

See what Hahn and Robin say. They have been awfully quiet. Doesn't Hahn negotiate contracts?

 

It's funny you are trying to nail me into a wall.

 

What if it is in his contract? Are you going to admit KW was out of bounds?

Edited March 18, 20169 yr by Dick Allen

1) Kenny said there wasn't. So now someone is lying, but we can't take either for fact.

 

2) The clause could very well say "Drake LaRoche is welcome in the clubhouse", not "Drake LaRoche has unlimited access to White Sox facilities"

 

For what it's worth, saying there's a contractual agreement isn't necessarily the same thing as saying it's in writing.

Edited March 18, 20169 yr by bighurt574

He chose his family over his job. It happens. It isn't Michael Jordan "retiring" so he can go drive his kids around. This guy actually walks the walk and talks the talk when it comes to his kids.

Please. He threw a temper tantrum because he was asked to limit how often his son is there, not because he was told his son is banned. He quit. I think we all say good riddance. It's a good thing he chose his family over his job, because he sucks at his job. I'm sure he's better at being a father.

See what Hahn and Robin say. They have been awfully quiet. Doesn't Hahn negotiate contracts?

 

It's funny you are trying to nail me into a wall.

 

What if it is in his contract? Are you going to admit KW was out of bounds?

 

If its in his contract then absolutely the Sox are at fault.

 

But if it was in his contract we wouldnt be having this conversation because the Sox would have unilaterally breached.

If it isn't in the contract, and there was no handshake agreement, absolutely.

 

what do any expect the sox to do, show the contract to players to prove a point??

 

any way, doesn't a copy goes to the players union???

 

when isn't laroche agen not getting into the fight if it was spelled out in the contract???

what do any expect the sox to do, show the contract to players to prove a point??

 

any way, doesn't a copy goes to the players union???

 

when isn't laroche agen not getting into the fight if it was spelled out in the contract???

 

Great point. If it was in the contract, his agent definitely would of already came out and bash the Sox.

It would definitely hurt but if you aren't winning with these guys, there's something up.

i think it will depends on the rtn players. one will need to be a young #2 type sp or better.

See what Hahn and Robin say. They have been awfully quiet. Doesn't Hahn negotiate contracts?

 

It's funny you are trying to nail me into a wall.

 

What if it is in his contract? Are you going to admit KW was out of bounds?

What does it matter what they say? Eaton, the player rep and vocal defender of LaRoche said LaRoche told him its written in the contract. If it is, get rid of KW and admit they made a mistake, if it isnt LaRoche is caught lying and his credibility is gone. KW has already stated its not in his contract. One of them is lying and we have a way to find out who when the details of the contract are eventually exposed. LaRoches camp may have made a grave mistake by saying it was written in his contract instead of sticking to the hand shake deal that could never be proven.

 

And yes, if it is in the contract not only is KW out of bounds he needs to be fired and held accountable for whatever laws he violated.

I doubt it was in his contract. It would have been dumb for the Sox to put it there, worse to breach it if it was.

 

Edit: if it was there, its likely in ambiguous, non-quantified terms like "Drake shall be allowed access." Something like that where a request to dial it down wouldn't amount to outright breach.

Edited March 18, 20169 yr by PlaySumFnJurny

right or wrong, the Sox are gonna look bad

 

 

i remember when i said this 110 pages ago

Adam Eaton says that he originally planned to bring his father to the clubhouse today, but in wake of LaRoche/Sox mess, feels uncomfortable

https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/710872853390831616