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2016-2017 NBA Thread

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QUOTE (Boogua @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:06 PM)
Apparently they turned down Levine and Dunn for Jimmy. Wow.

Thanks god the Twolves turned that down. Lavine is far from great.

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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:07 PM)
Thanks god the Twolves turned that down. Lavine is far from great.

+1

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 06:07 PM)
Thanks god the Twolves turned that down. Lavine is far from great.

No kidding. I'm shocked they didn't pull the trigger.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 05:09 PM)
No kidding. I'm shocked they didn't pull the trigger.

Nothing says they still can't do it.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 06:56 PM)
I like this draft a lot better than most. Really think Hield-Murray-Dunn will be perennial all stars. Would absolutely love any of them.

 

Brown goes #3. Big shocker there.

I would bet at least 2 of the 3 are as well.

 

 

That would have been awful for the Bulls. LaVine is a 6th man on a legit team. Well, maybe not because JR Smith and Richard Jefferson just started for the champs, but I don't see him being a key contributor.

Buddy and the Brow

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:14 PM)
That would have been awful for the Bulls. LaVine is a 6th man on a legit team. Well, maybe not because JR Smith and Richard Jefferson just started for the champs, but I don't see him being a key contributor.

He just turned 21.

@espnsteinline ESPN sources say Minnesota continues to try to engage Chicago on talks built around Kris Dunn to try to import Jimmy Butler to the Wolves

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:13 PM)
I would bet at least 2 of the 3 are as well.

 

I would bet Dunn long before the other 2. I don't think Hield or Murray are versatile enough to be great.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:14 PM)
That would have been awful for the Bulls. LaVine is a 6th man on a legit team. Well, maybe not because JR Smith and Richard Jefferson just started for the champs, but I don't see him being a key contributor.

 

He's 21. Way too early to be saying that. Kid is a very gifted athlete. Now, obviously that's not saying much since a lot of athletes bust, but the upside is much bigger than a 6th man.

 

Zach Lavine doesn't do much for me however. We'll see if it gets done

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:16 PM)
He just turned 21.

 

Great. Wake me up when he learns to play point. Otherwise, meh.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:17 PM)
He's 21. Way too early to be saying that. Kid is a very gifted athlete. Now, obviously that's not saying much since a lot of athletes bust, but the upside is much bigger than a 6th man.

 

A lot of guys are gifted athletes. He needs to do something besides dunk and do a decent job shooting 3's to be a top guy on a contender.

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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:22 PM)
A lot of guys are gifted athletes. He needs to do something besides dunk and do a decent job shooting 3's to be a top guy on a contender.

 

He has the tools you can work with though. Not gonna write off a kid that young just yet. Steph Curry had the same issues coming out about learning to play the point and he was getting 36 minutes as a rookie the same age as LaVine.The only things I question with LaVine is his basketball I.Q. and if he cares enough to be passible defensively.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:22 PM)
A lot of guys are gifted athletes. He needs to do something besides dunk and do a decent job shooting 3's to be a top guy on a contender.

 

He did that this year. 39% from 3 while taking almost 4 per game.

I was about to write about how awful a fit Chriss is, but then he gets traded. Phoenix is much more interesting, though he's still a project.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:29 PM)
He has the tools you can work with though. Not gonna write off a kid that young just yet. Steph Curry had the same issues coming out about learning to play the point and he was getting 36 minutes as a rookie the same age as LaVine.The only things I question with LaVine is his basketball I.Q. and if he cares enough to be passible defensively.

 

Yes, let's compare him to the best shooter of all time. :blink: Steph averaged 6 assists as a rookie while playing with Monta Ellis. Not remotely the same thing.

 

Basketball IQ and defense are what will keep him from being good unless there's major improvement.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:29 PM)
He did that this year. 39% from 3 while taking almost 4 per game.

 

Again, something besides dunk and be a mid/high 30's 3-point shooter. That's basically a young JR Smith (I don't think he's THAT big of a headcase obviously).

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:34 PM)
Yes, let's compare him to the best shooter of all time. :blink: Steph averaged 6 assists as a rookie while playing with Monta Ellis. Not remotely the same thing.

 

Sigh.. not comparing their shooting Joe, stay with me. I was comparing the question marks about running the point, and yes Steph had those same question marks. More of a small SG, weak defensively, etc.

 

Before I go too far down this rabbit hole, I would obviously be fine with LaVine if we had drafted him or got him cheap. I don't think he's remotely worth being the #2 piece for Butler.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:38 PM)
Sigh.. not comparing their shooting Joe, stay with me. I was comparing the question marks about running the point, and yes Steph had those same question marks. More of a small SG, weak defensively, etc.

 

It's still an awful comparison. LaVine didn't even start in college while Curry was doing crazy s***. Steph was also better as a rookie than I ever expect to see from LaVine.

I like Lavine but if you trade butler for him and Dunn you deserve to be the worst team for a long time.

 

 

WOJ BOMB! Ibaka going to Orlando. Interested to see details.

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