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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 07:25 PM)
Mayweather is down to like -350. Those are incredible odds, he should be like -2500. If only I had the $$$

Not sure who has those actual odds...everyone on the Strip is telling me its -550/-600 unless you are willing to bet the tko/ko.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 09:34 PM)
Not sure who has those actual odds...everyone on the Strip is telling me its -550/-600 unless you are willing to bet the tko/ko.

 

Online at Bovada

 

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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 09:55 PM)
Bovada and Vegas started last night at -450. Vegas went up to -700, bovada went down to -350. Extremely strange. Vegas knows though.

Bovada is a crazy square book usually. I'd bet the majority of their clientele bet on McGregor + money.

 

I put 8k on Mayweather -500 and 2k on Mayweather by KO/DQ. By far the biggest bets of my life, but this seems like a crazy value opportunity. Hopefully I don't regret it, but if it loses it won't be the end of the world.

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Well as everyone in the world expected that was a complete ass kicking. Not a single competitive round after the first 3 when it didn't even seem like Mayweather was trying.

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QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 01:08 AM)
Never a doubt Floyd would win.

 

 

Mayweather just toyed with McGregor. Gave him the first 2-3 rounds and was never in hurt or in danger.

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It's really late at night but really enjoyed the ESPN interviews of McGregor and Floyd. They said so much I can't even summarize, but it was pretty cool to hear McGregor especially.

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QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 02:31 AM)
4 people have bet $1 million so they can get $250,000

Pretty cool to have that much money that you can make an easy 250,000 on a sure bet like this. I always wondered why gamblers don't just pick their spots like this. I mean why go out there and play hi level blackjack and lose your ass like Rodman and Jordan did? If Michael just waited for something like this, go to several casinos and bet 2 million at each casino and make a ton of cash? There are few sure things but this was a sure thing. Well 95 percent a sure thing. I guess Floyd could have had cramps or thrown the fight or something but if you bet up to 10 million at different casinos there was a 95 percent chance you were going to net an easy return on your money.

 

Funny how Vegas sports books made a ton of money on this. Most chumps bet Conor because of the odds. They couldn't resist putting a few hundred on Conor in hopes of winning so much more. Those 300, 400, 500 dollar bets add up for the books.

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QUOTE (zenryan @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 01:28 AM)
Mayweather just toyed with McGregor. Gave him the first 2-3 rounds and was never in hurt or in danger.

 

Yup. He wasn't the same guy at 40 years old (not to mention being away for 2 years can get anybody a bit rusty) but still more than enough to own that fight.

 

I'm ready for Canelo and GGG though.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 01:48 AM)
Pretty cool to have that much money that you can make an easy 250,000 on a sure bet like this. I always wondered why gamblers don't just pick their spots like this. I mean why go out there and play hi level blackjack and lose your ass like Rodman and Jordan did? If Michael just waited for something like this, go to several casinos and bet 2 million at each casino and make a ton of cash? There are few sure things but this was a sure thing. Well 95 percent a sure thing. I guess Floyd could have had cramps or thrown the fight or something but if you bet up to 10 million at different casinos there was a 95 percent chance you were going to net an easy return on your money.

 

Funny how Vegas sports books made a ton of money on this. Most chumps bet Conor because of the odds. They couldn't resist putting a few hundred on Conor in hopes of winning so much more. Those 300, 400, 500 dollar bets add up for the books.

 

I know someone like this. He doesn't have the greatest job but somehow affords really nice things and a really nice house in Mokena. He throws thousands of dollars on tennis matches.

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QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 09:54 PM)
Well as everyone in the world expected that was a complete ass kicking. Not a single competitive round after the first 3 when it didn't even seem like Mayweather was trying.

I'm not sure I agree with this assessment of the fight.

 

Mayweather had a plan. He wanted to take the fight deep. Why? Because he didn't think he could beat McGregor with an early knockout. I'm sure if he thought he could come out and overpower McGregor and knock him out in 2 or 3 rounds, he would have.

 

There was never a doubt that Mayweather would win on points if it went the distance. That's pretty much any fight he fights.

 

The first 3 rounds were all McGregor. He landed some decent shots, and he didn't expose himself to shots from Mayweather. Of course, Mayweather wasn't really throwing much. Part of that is strategy. Let the less conditioned guy punch himself out. Part of that was McGregor's awkward style. He fought from an MMA distance - meaning the spacing between the two was the distance he is used to having so he can deliver strikes with his legs.

 

In rounds 4-6, Mayweather closed the distance and started moving forward. McGregor didn't really have an effective plan for this - not sure if he really expected it as Mayweather hasn't fought that way in any recent fights. I'm not sure McGregor's corner really helped him here either. He should have been working the body more and trying to land some uppercuts because Mayweather kept ducking his head. This is where McGregor's muscle memory really hurt him. He kept resorting to hammer punches and locking up with Mayweather when he turned his back rather than pounding the body. Mayweather won rounds 4-6, but he didn't exactly dominate them.

 

The tide turned in rounds 7 and 8. McGregor didn't have much on his punches anymore, and Mayweather could see that McGregor was tiring. In the 9th round, it became obvious to me that the fight wasn't going the distance, as McGregor was in constant retreat. I'm not sure why they didn't tell him to go to the ropes. Even with his back to them, I'm not sure Mayweather could have knocked him out, and McGregor would have saved some energy.

 

I'm surprised McGregor did as well as he did. This is in large part to Mayweather making the decision to engage in the fight. I'm sure he could have fought the defensive fight and won 12 rounds to zero had he wanted. But, he wanted the knockout, and as someone who was disappointed by the Canelo and Pacquiao fights, I'm glad he did that.

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QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 06:31 PM)
I'm not sure I agree with this assessment of the fight.

 

Mayweather had a plan. He wanted to take the fight deep. Why? Because he didn't think he could beat McGregor with an early knockout. I'm sure if he thought he could come out and overpower McGregor and knock him out in 2 or 3 rounds, he would have.

 

There was never a doubt that Mayweather would win on points if it went the distance. That's pretty much any fight he fights.

 

The first 3 rounds were all McGregor. He landed some decent shots, and he didn't expose himself to shots from Mayweather. Of course, Mayweather wasn't really throwing much. Part of that is strategy. Let the less conditioned guy punch himself out. Part of that was McGregor's awkward style. He fought from an MMA distance - meaning the spacing between the two was the distance he is used to having so he can deliver strikes with his legs.

 

In rounds 4-6, Mayweather closed the distance and started moving forward. McGregor didn't really have an effective plan for this - not sure if he really expected it as Mayweather hasn't fought that way in any recent fights. I'm not sure McGregor's corner really helped him here either. He should have been working the body more and trying to land some uppercuts because Mayweather kept ducking his head. This is where McGregor's muscle memory really hurt him. He kept resorting to hammer punches and locking up with Mayweather when he turned his back rather than pounding the body. Mayweather won rounds 4-6, but he didn't exactly dominate them.

 

The tide turned in rounds 7 and 8. McGregor didn't have much on his punches anymore, and Mayweather could see that McGregor was tiring. In the 9th round, it became obvious to me that the fight wasn't going the distance, as McGregor was in constant retreat. I'm not sure why they didn't tell him to go to the ropes. Even with his back to them, I'm not sure Mayweather could have knocked him out, and McGregor would have saved some energy.

 

I'm surprised McGregor did as well as he did. This is in large part to Mayweather making the decision to engage in the fight. I'm sure he could have fought the defensive fight and won 12 rounds to zero had he wanted. But, he wanted the knockout, and as someone who was disappointed by the Canelo and Pacquiao fights, I'm glad he did that.

I agree with your assessment 100 percent. I think Mayweather executed his plan to perfection as you said. McGregor by all accounts actually did OK. I did notice Floyd and his dad trying to stifle laughter at McGregor's presser after the match, however, as McGregor really wanted to fight the last two rounds, thinking he'd get a final wind. I think Floyd and dad knew Floyd executed his game plan to perfection and Floyd would have battered McGregor the final two rounds. Just look at Floyd after the decision was announced. He was fresh and attacking; McGregor was gassed.

But I agree with you it wasn't a bad fight at all. McGregor was not going to win if Floyd executed his game plan to perfection and he did. Trying to knock him out early would have been wrong. There always would have been a chance of 40 year old Floyd punching himself out and tiring himself later, or even worse, getting caught with something worse than that first round uppercut he got hit with.

I disagree Mayweather was a bum as stephen a smith sort of indicated. I thought he looked pretty good.

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QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 01:31 PM)
I'm not sure I agree with this assessment of the fight.

 

Mayweather had a plan. He wanted to take the fight deep. Why? Because he didn't think he could beat McGregor with an early knockout. I'm sure if he thought he could come out and overpower McGregor and knock him out in 2 or 3 rounds, he would have.

 

There was never a doubt that Mayweather would win on points if it went the distance. That's pretty much any fight he fights.

 

The first 3 rounds were all McGregor. He landed some decent shots, and he didn't expose himself to shots from Mayweather. Of course, Mayweather wasn't really throwing much. Part of that is strategy. Let the less conditioned guy punch himself out. Part of that was McGregor's awkward style. He fought from an MMA distance - meaning the spacing between the two was the distance he is used to having so he can deliver strikes with his legs.

 

In rounds 4-6, Mayweather closed the distance and started moving forward. McGregor didn't really have an effective plan for this - not sure if he really expected it as Mayweather hasn't fought that way in any recent fights. I'm not sure McGregor's corner really helped him here either. He should have been working the body more and trying to land some uppercuts because Mayweather kept ducking his head. This is where McGregor's muscle memory really hurt him. He kept resorting to hammer punches and locking up with Mayweather when he turned his back rather than pounding the body. Mayweather won rounds 4-6, but he didn't exactly dominate them.

 

The tide turned in rounds 7 and 8. McGregor didn't have much on his punches anymore, and Mayweather could see that McGregor was tiring. In the 9th round, it became obvious to me that the fight wasn't going the distance, as McGregor was in constant retreat. I'm not sure why they didn't tell him to go to the ropes. Even with his back to them, I'm not sure Mayweather could have knocked him out, and McGregor would have saved some energy.

 

I'm surprised McGregor did as well as he did. This is in large part to Mayweather making the decision to engage in the fight. I'm sure he could have fought the defensive fight and won 12 rounds to zero had he wanted. But, he wanted the knockout, and as someone who was disappointed by the Canelo and Pacquiao fights, I'm glad he did that.

 

IMO, your post describes a complete ass kicking, just like the assessment you claim to disagree with. Mayweather dictated the fight exactly how he wanted it to go and never once was in danger. McGregor seemed to do better than people thought, but that's only because Floyd let him.

 

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 28, 2017 -> 08:45 PM)
IMO, your post describes a complete ass kicking, just like the assessment you claim to disagree with. Mayweather dictated the fight exactly how he wanted it to go and never once was in danger. McGregor seemed to do better than people thought, but that's only because Floyd let him.

Mayweather, with 50 undefeated professional fights, took ten rounds to beat an amateur boxer. I don't even think he would say he kicked McGregor's ass.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 28, 2017 -> 11:04 AM)
Congrats to our betters on the last page. Even though Mayweather was a near lock, that still takes some temerity to put the big dollars down.

 

Some dope who's never watched MMA/Boxing bet me $50 straight up and he wanted McGregor. I felt bad at first but then he started talking smack so I am like yeah let's lock it in. Paid for my tab on Saturday.

Congrats to you too. Crazy that you got great value like that, even it was just for $50.

 

I am, and we should all be, hoping that McGregor takes one more boxing match. He is overvalued right now by a ton because he won a few rounds, got destroyed, and lasted

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 28, 2017 -> 10:45 PM)
IMO, your post describes a complete ass kicking, just like the assessment you claim to disagree with. Mayweather dictated the fight exactly how he wanted it to go and never once was in danger. McGregor seemed to do better than people thought, but that's only because Floyd let him.

+1. I think Floyd wanted to add some drama to the fight and he did. He realized pretty early on McGregor couldn't hurt him.

 

If a guy tries to make a huge bet on himself to win under 9.5 rounds (he got denied but got some in on it I saw) and ends the fight in under 9.5 rounds, I think we can say he did what he wanted and dictated the fight.

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QUOTE (Boogua @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 12:01 PM)
I don't think Mayweather will knock him out, but I think he'll win by TKO. Similar to the Hatton and Gatti fights, except Mayweather is older and this guy is exponentially worse than them.

Haha, oh wow. Completely forgot I posted earlier in this thread... At least I can show that I put my money where my mouth is I guess.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 29, 2017 -> 12:53 PM)
Indeed. Not exactly the same thing, but reminds me of Ronda before Nunes. I was able to cash out on that with Nunes as a dog.

 

 

It really was amazing that Nunes was an underdog. Didn't she go off around +130?

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Canelo would be the match to make. He's the biggest draw in any combat sport who isn't McGregor or brock lesnar so it makes sense. Hes also better than Mayweather at this point so I would love to see those odds. I'd imagine they'd be in line with what the mayweather odds were but with an even higher chance or winning.

 

If not maybe Cotto. Cotto has been a draw throughout his career and is looking for 1 more match. I bet those odds would be pretty even.

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