CentralChamps21 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I'm not wrong, am I? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Best pitcher on the market. Get it done, Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Then Carlos can say "I told you so!" Would love to have him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 This makes too much sense, no way they do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, maxjusttyped said: Best pitcher on the market. Get it done, Rick. Would be shocked if the Giants traded him. Once again Rick Hahn's prowess as GM rears it's ugly head. No Qualifying Offer to Rodon.. check. No draft pick for Sox .. check. Makes it easier for another team to sign Rodon.. check. Sox don't sign Rodon... check. Giant's put innings pitched qualifier in his contract that he easily reaches but based on his medicals Hahn lets him walk ... check. Now that Rodon can be a FA next year Giants can get a draft pick for him when they undoubtedly will offer him a QO (barring a big injury) because Hahn thought he might accept the QO and Sox would be stuck with him ... check. Edited July 23, 2022 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I love Los, but he's not fixing this mess. Though it would be SO White Sox to give up an actual asset to re-acquire a player they let walk for nothing only for him to leave again in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Would be shocked if the Giants traded him. Once again Rick Hahn's prowess as GM rears it's ugly head. No Qualifying Offer to Rodon.. check. No draft pick for Sox .. check. Makes it easier for another team to sign Rodon.. check. Sox don't sign Rodon... check. Giant's put innings pitched qualifier in his contract that he easily reaches but based on his medicals Hahn lets him walk ... check. Now that Rodon can be a FA next year Giants can get a draft pick for him when they undoubtedly will offer him a QO (barring a big injury) because Hahn thought he might accept the QO and Sox would be stuck with him ... check. Is there any asset they aquired with that money they saved that justifies not offering him the QO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Of all the dumb decisions Hahn has made, this would be near the top! It would be ridiculous to trade any prospects, which we already have a limited amount of, to get Rodon back, who was already allowed to walk away free and we got nothing in return the first time. Everyone seems to forget that Rodon was doing great through this same time in the first half last year. He was 8-5 with a 2.49 ERA at the end of the first half. It's in the second half, his innings and starts went down dramatically. This was obviously due to a 10 Day IL stint in the second half and all his second half starts having long gaps between them, which was due to a tired/sore arm. Second Half - 2021 Date Start Inn Pitches Hits ER 08/07/21 1 5 89 2 0 19 Days Rest 10 Day IL on 8-21 08/26/21 2 5 67 5 2 6 Days Rest 09/01/21 3 5 77 5 1 9 Days Rest 09/10/21 4 5 86 3 1 10 Days Rest 09/20/21 5 3 69 2 2 9 Days Rest 09/29/21 6 5 69 1 0 9 Days Rest 10/12/21 7 2.2 56 3 2 13 Days Rest Totals 7 30 513 21 8 Ave Per Start 4.2 73.2 3 1.4 To give up any prospect and possibly get these same results again, would be dumb and risky. Not to mention he will be a free agent at the end of this season. His productivity wasn't the issue, it was his lack of being available to pitch in the second half! As the old adage goes, "two wrongs don't make a right!" Maybe a better solution is for Lynn, Kopech and Giolito to step up and start pitching like they were expected to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, The Kids Can Play said: Of all the dumb decisions Hahn has made, this would be near the top! It would be ridiculous to trade any prospects, which we already have a limited amount of, to get Rodon back, who was already allowed to walk away free and we got nothing in return the first time. Everyone seems to forget that Rodon was doing great through this same time in the first half last year. He was 8-5 with a 2.49 ERA at the end of the first half. It's in the second half, his innings and starts went down dramatically. This was obviously due to a 10 Day IL stint in the second half and all his second half starts having long gaps between them, which was due to a tired/sore arm. Second Half - 2021 Date Start Inn Pitches Hits ER 08/07/21 1 5 89 2 0 19 Days Rest 10 Day IL on 8-21 08/26/21 2 5 67 5 2 6 Days Rest 09/01/21 3 5 77 5 1 9 Days Rest 09/10/21 4 5 86 3 1 10 Days Rest 09/20/21 5 3 69 2 2 9 Days Rest 09/29/21 6 5 69 1 0 9 Days Rest 10/12/21 7 2.2 56 3 2 13 Days Rest Totals 7 30 513 21 8 Ave Per Start 4.2 73.2 3 1.4 To give up any prospect and possibly get these same results again, would be dumb and risky. Not to mention he will be a free agent at the end of this season. His productivity wasn't the issue, it was his lack of being available to pitch in the second half! As the old adage goes, "two wrongs don't make a right!" Maybe a better solution is for Lynn, Kopech and Giolito to step up and start pitching like they were expected to. You forgot a few things First of all he got a tired arm because he basically had not pitched the previous 2 years. In order throw innings you have to have build up endurance in your arm . Him not pitching much in the 2nd half was due to being tired due to lick of innings the previous 2 years. So he ends up throwing more inning in 2021 which builds up endurance to pitch more innings in 2022. This is how pitching works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Sure. Trade for Rodon. Then, as soon as the Sox win the division as a result. Hahn has to immediately be fired on the spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthSideGeorgia Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Get Rodon and a lefty outfielder from Giants… how about Luis Gonzalez too. Zing… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 11 hours ago, SouthSideGeorgia said: Get Rodon and a lefty outfielder from Giants… how about Luis Gonzalez too. Zing… And Quintana too ! We're getting the Band back together !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 I made this thread as a joke, but . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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