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The debate was never actually about the validity of Fegan's work, but it was misconstrued as such.
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You completely misread my statement. I'm not attacking Fegan, he is legit and one of the better credentialed writers to cover this sorry ass team. I'm debunking @WestEddy's unsubstantiated claims used in an attempt to dunk on me for questioning his almighty holiness Chris Getz. I will continue to stand by my statement that it is premature to state unequivocally that Getz has brought about foundational change in the front office. We don't and can't know this yet. Yet. We need actual evidence that Getz's efforts to change the White Sox FO modus operandi is working, and it's too soon to know either way.
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This is nice to hear, but podcasting and writing for our respective blogs don't equate to multiple journalists reporting on said front office change as a specific poster claimed. This isn't a shot across anyone's bow. I have nothing but respect for those out there hustling to get truthful information from an insular org, or who care enough to write/blog/pod about a sorry-ass franchise in our spare time.
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I went searching for these reports by multiple journalists and found more articles on the stadium name change than on what Fegan is reporting. As a matter of fact, I did not find a single article to corroborate Fegan's piece. There are plenty of older articles talking about changes the Sox are supposedly making from recent years, most before Getz assembled the worst team in modern baseball, and none from actual journalists. Which of course comes as no surprise. As unsurprising as another unsubstantiated claim from the least credible Getz defender on this site.
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Your statements mean absolutely nothing to me, as you've proven time and again that you lack any semblance of objectivity when it comes to Chris Getz work in the White Sox front office. And your snarky little holier than thou quip is pretty laughable. I am not refuting that these things are happening behind the scenes. I am simply stating that we do not know that foundational change is happening, or has happened as the poster claimed. Nothing has proven out yet. My tangible proof is Jerry Reinsdorf's record as White Sox Chairman, and the current state of the franchise following an historic 121 loss season. 40 years of Reinsdorf ownership tells me plenty about the bounds in which a Sox GM is allowed to operate. My skepticism is backed by the org's track record of being bad.
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making some actual strides =/= Getz has made legitimate foundational change. I would like to believe Getz is doing what you're saying, but we don't actually know it yet, and I can't put faith in what the FO says. Nothing he is purportedly doing has been proven out yet, and we don't have evidence of tangible change. All I'm saying is that it's premature to make such definitive statements.
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I'm not a Sox Machine subscriber, so no. Can you provide tangible evidence that supports your claim that Getz has made legitimate foundational change?
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We don't actually know this though. At least not in any quantifiable manner yet, or with any tangible permanence. JR still holds the reins, and there will always be a limit to what change any GM can bring about. Getz's hires look good on paper, but this is also the same GM who put the worst team in modern baseball on the field. It is fair to question his competence across the board after his disastrous first year on the job. Getz was never a qualified hire and has yet to prove otherwise IMO. Our skeptical criticism is fair, and to say his actions are backed by legitimate foundational change is woefully premature.
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Sox Sign Joey Gallo to minor league deal, NRI
Tnetennba replied to Heads22's topic in Pale Hose Talk
While true, it doesn’t negate the point. The 121 loss White Sox cannot look to the 119 loss Tigers and think they can quickly climb out of the cellar because the owner refuses to operate in any what that would allow that to happen. -
Sox Sign Joey Gallo to minor league deal, NRI
Tnetennba replied to Heads22's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Gee, I wonder what the major difference between that Tigers team and this White Sox org is... -
C - Lee, Thais 1B - Vaughn 2B - Rojas SS - Montgomery 3B - Vargas DH - Gallo/a rotation of guys for rest/matchups LF - Benintendi CF - Taylor RF - Tauchaman/Slater 4th OF - Fletcher Util - Sosa Not how I would pick them, but seems like the right mix of logic + White Sox stupid.
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There are players on this list whose names I completely forgot 😂
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s%*# gets built in this neighborhood that residents are against. Grease the alderman's office enough and you'll get the green light. It's Bridgeport FFS. I'm opposed to 35th & Shields turning into Clark & Addison, not something I really have to fear, but the sea of parking has always been absurd, and lack of adjacent pre & post game options a massive missed opportunity. Bridgeport will never be the draw Wrigleyville is, but I have always believed that with the right investment around the park, it could be a game day draw, and an off-season draw for Sox fans. But as things stand, I don't think we will ever know.
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There is a bar at Gate 5 now, but that's the only thing they've ever developed. The team store is open daily, but the bar is only open on game days, and not very late after games. It's hardly a money maker. The two bars on 33rd do far more business on game days than said bar attached to Gate 5. I've never put much stock in the rumors that the 'neighborhood' wouldn't let the area be developed. Presumably Jerry doesn't want to lose his parking monies or compete with outside businesses syphoning off money that would otherwise be spent in the park.
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That would require actual knowledge of the inner workings of the ISFA, the Sox lease at GRF, and Jerry's business interests and relationship with the 11th Ward alderman and the city over the years. Then again, why provide facts when you can speculate wildly on the internet to justify a made up narrative.
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Now that would be entertainment!
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Sox Sign Joey Gallo to minor league deal, NRI
Tnetennba replied to Heads22's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Not exactly sure how lighting a fire under a physically maxed out poor athlete works. Dude got his $6M for sucking in years past, it would take a lot for this org to cut bait at this point sadly. -
Sox Sign Joey Gallo to minor league deal, NRI
Tnetennba replied to Heads22's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I don't think they will have a regular DH. -
Eloy Jimenez signs minor league deal with Tampa Bay
Tnetennba replied to Sleepy Harold's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Maybe because no team can? How the f*** does a team FORCE a player to do anything during the offseason? -
Sox Sign Joey Gallo to minor league deal, NRI
Tnetennba replied to Heads22's topic in Pale Hose Talk
These are the types of signings they should be making. If anything, it makes the signing of other washed up vets to guaranteed deals earlier in the offseason look even more questionable. -
Sox Sign Joey Gallo to minor league deal, NRI
Tnetennba replied to Heads22's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Cornering that Market! -
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Good luck with that Detroit...
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Like, maybe give the guys Getz himself traded for a shot, instead of burying them behind retreads that offer no value to the future of the roster. They are likely all AAAA guys anyway, but signing washed up vets instead of committing to developing the guys in house indicates that they either don't care about development or have no faith in their ability to do so. Neither points to them having a clear path or plan, or any faith in whatever they are trying to implement.
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Except they are a worse team on paper than last year while operating in almost exactly the same dumb manner. 121 is difficult to replicate, but I struggle to see how any of these vets alters that trajectory.